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lemmy 16 points 3 years ago

.....why would you use bottles to play windows games and not just use Proton? If you don't know Proton is a incredible tool built right into steam and it works with most games. You can check Protondb for comparability with the games you want to play

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Sa6o90 7 points 3 years ago

Man, Proton itself is just Wine + DXVK + VKD3D and maybe some minor tweaks. How would using Proton help my situation? I mean, if I was playing a legal copy of these games - yeah, running them directly on Steam would help, but these games are pirated copies, dude.

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Fisch 12 points 3 years ago

You can also run pirated copies in Steam, you wouldn't need Steam multiple times and it would fix those issues you're having

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lemmy 8 points 3 years ago

Dude you can run pirated copies through steam using Proton and fix your issues. Chill dude

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Sa6o90 3 points 3 years ago

Guys, I tried to add one of these games to Steam using the "Add Non-Steam game..." button. At first the game started, but for some reason it doesn't allow me to connect to the Xbox server, which is weird because it works with Bottles... The game I'm talking about is Grounded.

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priapus 1 point 3 years ago

Proton is meant specifically for steam games. Proton developers recommend not using it for other games, and just using wine. Also if you use steam to run games managing the wine prefix because very annoying.

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lemmy 6 points 3 years ago

Works very well. I'll even run non game apps through proton

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kriss0706 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah it really does. I've been playing Live For Speed for years on linux, which is a windows game.

I found out early on that Proton Experimental works the best for me.

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priapus 1 point 3 years ago

You can do so, but that doesn't make it the best idea. There's a reason the devs say not to. Steam makes it very difficult to manage prefixes, installing dependencies and running exe's under the prefix is very awkward. There's really no benefit over using Lutris or Bottles.

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Sa6o90 3 points 3 years ago

Yup, there are 2 main reasons I use Bottles.

I have only 1 bottle (wine prefix) and I put all of my games there. This means, I don't waste extra space for a separate wineprefix for every single game (I have a lot of games), and I don't have to set up a prefix every time I install a new one. I only had to install dependencies and set environment parameters once, and then every single game just works.
Bottles runs with Flatpak (sandboxed), which gives me an additional layer of security. We all know that downloading and running a pirated EXEs are not always safe.

Everything was working so well until this recent Steam update...

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immibis 0 points 3 years ago

@lemmy note that Proton is just Valve's customized version of existing software called Wine, which is the usual way to run Windows software on Linux. Please try to avoid handing control of it to Valve by making Valve's version the default one.

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lemmy 5 points 3 years ago

I'm not saying to just hand it over. For his specific issue this is the way to fix it

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Sa6o90 8 points 3 years ago

I think I found a solution for now. Adding -vgui will launch the old Steam UI.

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burrito82 1 point 3 years ago

Thank you!

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janoosh 4 points 3 years ago

I think it still should be possible with combination of native Steam and Steamtinkerlaunch, although I haven't done that in a while. Check this guide.

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Sa6o90 3 points 3 years ago

This might help. I will take a look. Thank you very much.

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DarkRookie 4 points 3 years ago

The scroll is sluggish, but beyond that everything has been great. A major improvement for me.

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histic 1 point 3 years ago

that sounds like he accel problem should be able to disable in settings not at home or id tell you where it is

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Chais 3 points 3 years ago

Yes. None of the issues you describe, though.

I can't use the steam overlay at all. Shift+Tab does nothing. I made sure it's enabled.
I can't click any of the options in the context menu of friends' icons.

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Sa6o90 1 point 3 years ago

I don't understand what you're talking about. You don't have these problems? How are you running your Steam? Are you running the Windows version or the native Linux one?

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Chais 1 point 3 years ago

Linux version, of course. I bought my games, though, so that might help. Contributing factors to my issues may be Wayland and gamescope.

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Sa6o90 1 point 3 years ago

You probably missed it. I said there is no problem with the native Steam version, but I want to play my pirated games with my friends.

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Chais 1 point 3 years ago

Seems I did. Never mind, then. Raises the question if you have issues with the overlay on the native version though :D

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DanJeEpicMan 3 points 3 years ago

If you have Nvidia, use drivers 470 instead of 530 worked for me on Ubuntu

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Waker 3 points 3 years ago

Ah... Good ol' spacewars

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delcake 2 points 3 years ago

I had a strange issue where the Store interface couldn't be interacted with until I swapped to the Library and back again. I side-stepped the issue by just telling Steam to always open to the Library tab on launch which is honestly preferable behavior anyways.

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radau 2 points 3 years ago

I'm mad I didn't think to do this, thank you lol

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pokkst 2 points 3 years ago

For me, Steam just keeps starting, crashing, then re-starting, after the update.

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toaster 2 points 3 years ago

This issue occurs with most applications on latest update of Bottles. You can temporarily fix this issue by enabling Virtual desktop in the bottle's Display Settings. If you play games in WIndows version of Steam, you might experience a significant lag after enabling this option.

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ipkpjersi 1 point 3 years ago

Yes, it has a white flash with the dropdown menus: https://streamable.com/eerf20

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Clairvoidance 2 points 3 years ago

I got the white flash too but I don't have any of the other issues described in OP
For some reason in Settings > Storage, when I try to select anything on this dropdown nothing happens

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ipkpjersi 1 point 3 years ago

Well I am glad it's not just me, that means it's more likely for it to get fixed.

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kylian0087 0 points 3 years ago

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Sa6o90 2 points 3 years ago

How would Lutris help me in this situation? I mean, isn't Lutris just a GUI for Wine, just like Bottles.

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kylian0087 -3 points 3 years ago

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