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simple 82 points a year ago

I don't understand this post, Severance never claimed to be a mindblowing political series. It's a sci-fi thriller that also happens to be a satire of corporate culture, nothing more. It doesn't need to be "a deeper critique of capitalism" to tell a good story

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neidu3 26 points a year ago

Yeah, upon reading the post I immediately thought of an article from a long time ago whether some anime was feminist or antifeminist. It was just an average anime that didn't even engage with the topic.
The conversation around a piece of art becomes infinitely worse once values are ascribed to it based on a (re)viewers personal ideologies and agenda.

I'm all for anticapitalist sentiment and feminism, but not every topic needs to be evaluated under them.

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pdxfed 6 points a year ago

Found the anti-feminist! /s

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endeavor 2 points a year ago
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terraborra 8 points a year ago

Office Space on ketamine.

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Fedegenerate 7 points a year ago

Early on the show told us it wouldn't be a deep philosophical exploration. By making that aspect of the show (personified as the brother in law) be comic relief.

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FooBarrington 5 points a year ago

While he is comic relief, no arguing that - it doesn't preclude his role in the series from sparking interesting debates. It's just a different discussion than the one you're presumably hoping for.

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Fedegenerate 5 points a year ago

Agreed on both counts. It's true that I went in hoping for a delve in what it means to be severed, but the show told me early it wasn't going to be that and I accepted that.

I didn't see the show as promising to critique capitalism, but explore cults through the setting of an office. Everything outside of the exploration of cult was incidental.

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FooBarrington 5 points a year ago

I think it's mainly focussing on the emotional part of severance, e.g. immediate interpersonal & especially romantic connections. Some focus on the social & cultural aspects would have been really nice!

Hopefully we'll get some of that in the next season. I couldn't be happier with the first two, so I'd say there's a good chance they'll move to these aspects to keep things interesting, especially after the ending of season 2 seems to be focussing on the conflicts between severed & non-severed!

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Ilandar 17 points a year ago
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dditty 3 points a year ago

I agree! Black Mirror episodes often make a point and then beat you over the head with it

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Ilandar 3 points a year ago
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reef 10 points a year ago

I agree! I like Severance, but people have been overselling the political commentary angle

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anarchiddy 9 points a year ago

Jesus, this writer is dense.

Honestly, I never personally thought of this show as an explicitly Marxist critique of capitalism, but the way this article hyper-focuses on profit being an absent detail of the show makes me think they just don't know what Marxism is. I don't think there could be a clearer allegory of alienation of labor than the severance procedure.

I guess if that's what you think Marxism is, fine. If Lumon having near total control over the lives of its workers isn't a critique of class relations under capitalism, I don't know what would be.

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Krauerking 3 points a year ago

Honestly it's all skin deep and not as smart of a show as the praise makes it.
Literally the show performs one of my least favorite tropes for lazy writers that want to write off a character but don't want them dead or have to figure out a good character arc and then even has the gall to act like it was poignant with a literal:

Train To Nowhere

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FooBarrington 1 point a year ago

There's no reason to assume Irving won't be a part of the next season (and, IIRC, the actor already stated he'll still be a part of the show).

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Krauerking 1 point a year ago

Oh sure. But for now he's just on a round trip out and back in so that we don't have to ask where he is for the finale.

I had no doubts from the fact that they put the character on a train to nowhere. It's not a decision when faced with the question of what to do with a character next. It's "exit stage left" so that you can write yourself out of a hole with them later.

Its a good show but the writing is lazy insofar as they don't have a plan and are giving themselves easy ways forward or out of jams.

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FooBarrington 1 point a year ago

I'd understand this criticism if Irving had been missing for a whole season, but he hasn't been missing so far.

You don't know that they don't have a plan. It's a fine criticism if it happens, but you don't know if it will happen.

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Krauerking 1 point a year ago

He solved a puzzle the writers gave him and concluded his purpose and then Burt's character was made to be different and then ignored the new character description anyways to conveniently send the character away.

Its already been contrived enough to point it out as such and will be legitimate as an overarching issue if it continues yes.

Rest of the season was pretty great but you can feel easy answer writing, so I am calling out the early symptoms of it. It's as legitimate as my opinion as far as you are willing to listen to it.

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