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AmyCupcake 134 points 3 years ago

The money from the fountain gets collected and sent to Caritas, a catholic charity that focuses on health, disaster relief, poverty, and migration. I am a Queer atheist person in Spain that uses their services and they haven’t once made my queerness an issue. Nor have they exposed me to their religious views.

So, shrug, I’m not gonna shit on them doing the tradition that many diplomatic events in Rome do.

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DreadPirateShawn 83 points 3 years ago

Objectively, it sounds like it's an innocent tradition and a healthy charity.

Subjectively, it's tone-deaf af, when the rule-makers perform superstition for such a massive world-changing problem. Basically "thoughts and prayers."

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MBM 9 points 3 years ago

I can guarantee you that nobody did this with the idea it'd help fight climate change

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ehrenschwan 10 points 3 years ago

+1 for Caritas. My mum, a non-religous person, worked for them for quite some time and I've never heard a bad thing from her.

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Pantoffel 7 points 3 years ago

A friend once applied for a job at Caritas in Germany and got rejected for the reason of not being catholic, but christian. I think you could argue that is okay, but by German law it actually is not.

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TheFriendlyDickhead 4 points 3 years ago

I realy don't understand why the church still gets to do so many things that are simply not legal. It seems like the law that they have to follow is an older version.

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NathanielThomas 3 points 3 years ago
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Syrc 4 points 3 years ago

Wait what does Jesus have in common with vampires? I’ve always seen him represented more as a Zombie (?)

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 7 points 3 years ago

He's a reverse-vampire. He makes other people drink his blood.

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Syrc 3 points 3 years ago

Holy shit you’re right. And since the Bible was published before 1700 (when the term was born), I guess it would be even more accurate to say a vampire is a reverse-Jesus…?

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NathanielThomas 2 points 3 years ago
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HikingVet 88 points 3 years ago

They are literally the people who can enact change, the fuck do they need luck for?

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Moc 60 points 3 years ago
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rockSlayer 22 points 3 years ago

It's not that they refuse to do anything, they just refuse to do anything that would challenge the power of the capitalist class.

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GardenVarietyAnxiety 8 points 3 years ago

Change they to we.

Whether the goal is political action or direct action; Get organized.

Local organizations become regional, regional become national.

If "They" are not going to save us, "We" have to do it.

Organize, vote, act.

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ImFresh3x -4 points 3 years ago

So called “communists” are also contributing massively to the problem. Though one could argue they’re really just capitalist too.

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rockSlayer 0 points 3 years ago

How are communists contributing to the problem?

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Chariotwheel 12 points 3 years ago

Hoping that the situation solves itself without having to make hard decisions or, Gott bewahre, sacrifices.

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Blackmist 4 points 3 years ago

"We all know what to do, but we don’t know how to get re-elected once we have done it."

Career politicians are a cancer.

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SlopppyEngineer 1 point 3 years ago

There are Rules for Rulers. In the background there are always nobels, clergy, bankers, businessmen, military and the common folk each with their own demands and reasons to pressure or remove the ruler of their demands are not met.

There are a enough examples of leaders trying to change too much and being assassinated. Although these days that's more killed in the media.

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AllonzeeLV 84 points 3 years ago

Just like declining birth rates in the US.

"We need to have more babies! Our population is declining!"

Well we could subsidize child care.

"Fuck you! Oh whatever shall we do?!"

Well we could provide housing programs for people who want to have children.

"Fuck you! Oh we need to think of something."

Oh, I know, we could subsidize fertility treatments for parents that want children but are having difficulties and can't afford 10s of thousands of uncovered medical expenses at once!

"Fuck you! Oh, woe is me, there's nothing anyone can do!"

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explodicle 44 points 3 years ago

Left out "we could just let more people move here"

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Asafum 28 points 3 years ago

But then our society wouldn't be white dominated anymore! our culture! Oh our culture! Demographics! Crime! Ahhhh! Be afraid!

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orphiebaby 5 points 3 years ago

This is Japan too. Very much so right now

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SaveComengs 2 points 3 years ago

th japanese stance on the rapid population decline is so fucked lol

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AllonzeeLV 6 points 3 years ago

100%

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mayo 3 points 3 years ago

Definitely not that simple. Immigration is good, but you need the physical and social infrastructure to manage it.

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explodicle 3 points 3 years ago

Why would we need new infrastructure? We've had high immigration rates in the past, we could just do that again.

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mayo 3 points 3 years ago

Think about it... housing, medical care, transportation. These need to keep up with population growth. If growth is achieved through immigration, then you need infrastructure to support more people. I'm in Canada, immigration has been seen as a positive thing for a long time, but there is a resource squeeze right now and increasing immigration is seen as adding fuel to the fire.

We are trying to address those issues, but it would have been a lot better to put infrastructure in place before aiming to increase the population size.

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TheFriendlyDickhead 2 points 3 years ago

I don't realy see how it's more expensive to keep a few immigrants alive, who are willing to work and often already have good education, than raising and educating a child for years to come.

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NathanielThomas 29 points 3 years ago
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AllonzeeLV 13 points 3 years ago

I actually agree for the sake of the Earth and humanity long term, if there is such a thing anymore.

I acknowledge though, that it will be very painful for humanity to adjust to downsizing, and in sociopolitical discourse, short medium term humanity is all most ever consider relevant. But yes, I agree with the long game position that humanity should strive to shrink and find equilibrium with our world.

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TheFriendlyDickhead 8 points 3 years ago

It's sad to me that we live in a system where growth is the only goal. If the economy only grows by one percent its a crisis. Like what the fuck. I think you don't have to be a genius to see that infinite growth with finite resources is somehow impossible.

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HardlightCereal 2 points 3 years ago

Infinite growth is the ideology of a cancer cell

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itstoowet 10 points 3 years ago

No no no, don't you see? The growth MUST continue... Or else

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DandomRude 63 points 3 years ago

Is that Angela Merkel in the middle? If so this must be at least an old photo. She is not the German chancellor anymore. Not that that would make things any better...

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NathanielThomas 16 points 3 years ago
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DandomRude 3 points 3 years ago

Just wanted to make sure. Not sure if any US representatives are in this picture though. But it kinda looks a bit like Merkel and Martin Schulz (2nd from the right, also a German politician and at the time probably President of the European Parliament - this guy looks like him) are on the lookout to see if our friends from America (on maps to the left/west from europe) would like to flip a coin as well.

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gigachad 4 points 3 years ago

That's Charles Michel, President of the European council. I admit they look a bit similar on this photo, but Martin Schulz was President of EU parliament until 2017.

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DandomRude 2 points 3 years ago

Ahh, yes. Thanks for clearing that up.

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MNByChoice 3 points 3 years ago

And Boris from the UK.

I guess it didn't work. Any other lucky rivers or wishing wells around?

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HawlSera 58 points 3 years ago

Punishing corporations for their misbehavior is too much work

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PilferJynx 18 points 3 years ago

Especially when they barely pay your bills

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HawlSera 9 points 3 years ago

Right? There's nothing you defend, these major corporations and billionaires are literally ruining everything and offering no benefit. Most of the best stuff that happens is from publicly funded research or volunteer work.

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Duke_Nukem_1990 39 points 3 years ago

When was this? Merkel and her party luckily aren't in the government anymore.

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Syrc 6 points 3 years ago

Thanks for the fact-check. I hate that we’ve gotten to ragebait on Lemmy as well.

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Chariotwheel 9 points 3 years ago

Boris Johnson was already 2 prime ministers ago.

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Blackmist 7 points 3 years ago

The rate they burn through them, that could have been last week.

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unexposedhazard 6 points 3 years ago

Well the current coalition isnt really doing any better in that regard. All they seem to care about is condemning climate protesters and the usual corrupt behaviour that we know from the CDU...

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Duke_Nukem_1990 10 points 3 years ago

There would never have been a Deutschlandticket with CDU. Fuck FDP but at least neither Grüne nor SPD is openly fellating the AfD Nazis like the current CDU is doing.

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unexposedhazard 2 points 3 years ago

"... in that regard." I generally prefer our current government, but that does not morally prevent me from critizicing them and shitting on their bad behavior. Better != Good

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Karyoplasma 1 point 3 years ago

Deutschlandticket should have been a wake-up call for the desolate state of public transport.

For years and years DB complained that they cannot provide a more broadly available service because there is not enough public interest. Factual statements about the booking process for interstate travel and high fares for short travels were swept aside as hearsay.

Suddenly, public interest piqued because of the Deutschlandticket and it was a disaster with a capital D. Who got the blame? The company that failed to expand even tho they had a monopoly-by-law for over 60 years and that doesn't pay for the infrastructure they are using to make profit? No, it was the customers of course.

What came of the whole ordeal? Absolutely fucking nothing. Business as usual.

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NathanielThomas 1 point 3 years ago
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LexiconBexicon 1 point 3 years ago

If you cared then it wouldn't matter where they protested

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NathanielThomas 1 point 3 years ago
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Duke_Nukem_1990 0 points 3 years ago

despise them like we do PETA.

So you are saying you gotten got by yet another lobbying campain?

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Blackmist 37 points 3 years ago

Boris looks confused at the idea of throwing money at anything other than his mates.

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formergijoe 1 point 3 years ago

I'm surprised there isn't a follow up photo of him falling into the fountain somehow.

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spamspeicher 35 points 3 years ago

They did NOT toss coins for "good luck fighting the climate emergency." Maybe some did, who knows. It was not a collective wish for something, just a stage for a nice group photo.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/made-wish-g20-leaders-toss-113600490.html?guccounter=1

https://www.bloomberg.com/...

From the Yahoo article: "Of course the wishes can't be revealed to anyone if they are to become true - so who knows what British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, French President Emmanuel Macron, outgoing German Chancellor Angela Merkel wished for."

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lorty 3 points 3 years ago

Maybe instead of tossing coins they could sign binding agreements that actually accomplish something

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Asafum 3 points 3 years ago

"I wish I didn't have to let the peasants elect me. I wish I could just have power so I could enrich myself! I wish I didn't have to stand here for this damn photo!"

We know what they wished for whether they tell us or not lol

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STRIKINGdebate2 28 points 3 years ago

Due to reports of misinformation from users I'll post this comment here.

No. They were not actually tossing coins backwards for good luck fighting climate change. No one knows exactly what the people in this picture were actually wishing good luck for.

I don't want to come down too hard on people but one of my jobs as moderator is to prevent the spread of misinformation.

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NathanielThomas 10 points 3 years ago
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idontreallyknow 6 points 3 years ago

Good mod

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MBM 5 points 3 years ago

Is it possible to pin comments on Lemmy? This one's kind of buried, it seems a bunch of people missed it.

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AllonzeeLV 0 points 3 years ago

As long as they're having fun.

Not like they'd do anything about the many global crises anyway, that would involve inconveniencing the owners.

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thann 22 points 3 years ago

well toss a coin for good luck while we let corporations rape the planet

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MonsiuerPatEBrown 21 points 3 years ago

Oceans 111°

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PixeIOrange 15 points 3 years ago

Would like to know how many fetch back their coin afterwards...

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Niggling__Niggard 15 points 3 years ago

You think these fuckers used one of their own coins? They were just props that was handed to them. They probably haven't touched an actual coin themselves in years.

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VieuxQueb 14 points 3 years ago

Look at the average age of the people in that picture. You think they care for climate change? They know they'll be dead soon enough.

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baatliwala 5 points 3 years ago

I despise Modi but there's not one single Indian who doesn't care about climate change. It's at least one thing literally all politicians and people of all classes get behind here.

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fne8w2ah 8 points 3 years ago

This is literally worthy of nottheonion material lol. 🤣

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finickydesert 7 points 3 years ago

Can't hurt or tell the rich what to do for the 99% /s

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FlyingSquid 4 points 3 years ago

Words fail.

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balderdash9 4 points 3 years ago

Well if that fails, they can wish upon a star

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paddirn 3 points 3 years ago

“Heads we live, tails we die.”

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sachamato 2 points 3 years ago

I'm always surprised about this ideas. I imagine this happening when the marketing intern comes up with it and somehow it climbs the ladder to a point where the person in charge says "let's do this". Amazing.

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AeonFelis 1 point 3 years ago
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