When I've just watched a video about cycling infrastructure in Oslo and Amsterdam before gearing up to fight for my life on Mumbai's roads

a year ago by destructdisc to c/fuckcars

tetrislife 16 points a year ago

Mumbai has very frequent local trains, right? And buses?

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destructdisc 24 points a year ago

And next to no cycling infrastructure, which is why I have to go to war with cars and big-ass trucks on the roads every day

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hanrahan 6 points a year ago

Let is know you're still alive !

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destructdisc 6 points a year ago

I'm an old hand, I've made it this far

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Damage 4 points a year ago

What's your commute time/distance like?

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destructdisc 12 points a year ago

14km one way. Takes me a little under a half hour to get to work in the mornings, longer on the way back home because there's a fuckton of unruly traffic at that time of day

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Damage 11 points a year ago

30km/h is godly speed in such conditions

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GissaMittJobb 3 points a year ago

It must be scorching to ride in Mumbai, big kudos there

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reddit_sux 8 points a year ago

If you can get in one.

After pandemic many people have migrated to outer parts of the city. Since WFH stopped them travelling daily to work have increased the load on an heavily burdened public transport.

There are projects to move some of the people to other modes of transport. They have their own hurdles, ageing existing infrastructure, crowded and haphazardly constructed areas, bureaucracy slowing down construction.

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tormeh 5 points a year ago

You have to get from the station to where you want to go. I've seen enough videos of Indian traffic to imagin that's no fun without a ton of steel around you

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phdepressed 8 points a year ago

"Traffic laws are more guidelines than rules". Is basically the motto in any south Asian country. China also used to be bad but they are real heavy on the camera enforcement and will even ticket speeders by timing between cameras.

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stoy 5 points a year ago

ticket speeders by timing between cameras.

You mean that they use average speed cameras?

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phdepressed 7 points a year ago

I mean that they'll take a pictures potentially miles apart and calculate speed by the time between them rather than just speed at time of capture via radar or induction loop.

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tetrislife 1 point a year ago

Traffic density doesn't cause any problem, it is slow traffic anyway, especially last-mile localities. Maybe there are no local trains on his route.

The main concern with traffic density would be polluted air, which you'd breathe more of when cycling.

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destructdisc 4 points a year ago

Traffic density doesn’t cause any problem

It does when the traffic is so dense that you can't get by even on foot, let alone on a bike. I've had the misfortune of spending 20 minutes marooned in the same spot in the middle of a traffic jam because I was boxed in with no space to pass anywhere.

We take "bumper to bumper" traffic quite literally in this neck of the woods.

There's actually pretty decent public transit on my route, but I'd have to take a bus for half of it, which...well, see above.

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tetrislife 1 point a year ago

Well, population density does that, I guess! Not much to be done about it, even in other parts of India with population not as crazily dense as Mumbai.

Between that and avoidable traffic jams created by vehicles blocking intersections, cycling may be the fastest method but also needs breathing more polluted air. But the time overhead of public transport can't be reduced with this population density. So ... a rock and a hard place!

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BackgrndNoize 5 points a year ago

Yeah and they are very packed to the gills as well, there's way too many people moving to this tiny city from all over the country and the goverment puts no regulations to regulate this migration, there's not enough housing for these people's and that's how slums develop, but these people become the local goon/politicians vote bank so they will support this, instead of actually improving the city

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Evotech 5 points a year ago

Now you can watch videos on Copenhagen bike infrastructure!

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tamal3 4 points a year ago

Ditto Asheville roads. It's wild out there.

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AA5B 0 points a year ago

Is it just me seeing a parallel between Mumbai’s roads and some “traffic calming” recommended for here in the US?

  • When I visited Mumbai what struck me is that somehow the chaos worked. I saw much less rage, violence, actual danger on the roads. Maybe it’s just my limited perspective as a brief visitor, but
  • here in the us we focus on fast, efficient roads to accept ever higher speeds, but have huge problems with road rage, deadly accidents and violence. Common recommendations include narrower roads, less clear instructions, more mixing modes of transportation, more chaos, so drivers are effectively forced to slow down, have to think, have to figure out how to make it work
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