The U.S. Government Wants To Control Online Speech to “Protect Kids”

3 years ago by HLMenckenFan to c/technology

The Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA), a bill that allows for a wide range of government penalties for online speech, could soon be passed by Congress. If that happens, the access we have to information may be forever changed. KOSA will make state prosecutors and federal bureaucrats the final arbiters...
Blizzard 173 points 3 years ago

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randon31415 62 points 3 years ago

Not the US government, republicans and one random house dem that seems to hate technology.

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knyuqlr 43 points 3 years ago path: 0 2317888 2318996, hotness: undefined, score: 43, children: 1
Bonskreeskreeskree 21 points 3 years ago

oMg boTh sIdeS aRe nOt tHe sAmE.... except for when it comes to eroding freedoms

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TropicalDingdong 12 points 3 years ago

Not the US government, republicans and one random house dem that seems to hate technology.

Whose the Dem?

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RustyShackleford 13 points 3 years ago

Blumenthal, of course.

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Bonskreeskreeskree 12 points 3 years ago

What about the other 20?

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Fredselfish 2 points 3 years ago

Why do say of course?

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MiscreantMouse 18 points 3 years ago path: 0 2317888 2318131 2318582 2318869 2319352, hotness: undefined, score: 18, children: 1
MagneticFusion 55 points 3 years ago
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Teon 20 points 3 years ago

And then they lower the age that kids can get married to 14/15 (pedos!), and change labor laws so pre-teens can work in dangerous jobs or serve alcohol.
If they want to protect "children", we need Xtra restrictive gun laws, and child abuse laws. Who protects children from abuse at home?
Not conservatives, they are the ones behind all this.

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HLMenckenFan 9 points 3 years ago

Exactly right.

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Chreutz 8 points 3 years ago

Except when it's guns

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Melpomene 2 points 3 years ago
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QubaXR 46 points 3 years ago

Somehow it never crossed their minds to stop selling firearms to teens, but vendor Internet in the name of protecting kids? Sign us up. Fuck that.

Pretty much any bill, worldwide, that includes the phrase "project kids" is always about pushing censorship, government surveillance and other forms of oppression on everyone. And guess what: zero actual benefit to kids.

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BrianTheeBiscuiteer 44 points 3 years ago

This is quite scary. I don't know if it being on the calendar means they're guaranteed to vote on it but the text of the bill would completely fuck the Fediverse. You literally need paid personnel to comply with these regulations.

https://www.congress.gov/...

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db2 23 points 3 years ago

Host somewhere else. They're not the world police.

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EatMyDick3 -2 points 3 years ago
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Bizarroland 18 points 3 years ago

I guess we'll just become criminals and host our servers in countries that actually respect freedom.

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whataboutshutup 39 points 3 years ago

Why old men are so obsessed with kids? Are they pedo or something?

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uriel238 51 points 3 years ago

It's never about kids. If they gave half a fuck about kids, we'd have free school lunches and teachers would be paid a fair salary.

So long as the internet is around to distribute fact-checks and officer-involved homicide videos they have no plausible lies by which the 80% of us in poverty or precarity should tolerate the abuse of plutocrats and capitalists.

So this is a first amendment issue: it's about suppression of political speech. It always was 🌍 👩‍🚀 🔫 👨‍🚀 🌑

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T156 8 points 3 years ago

They're a convenient scapegoat. You can accuse the other side of not caring about/endangering children for political points, and children don't have politically-relevant opinions, or votes, so you're never going to have children speaking up and going "that's not correct", or protesting against you for a law you've passed. If they do end up protesting, you can point fingers at the parents and say that they're indoctrinating the children.

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mPony 32 points 3 years ago

every time they say it's to "protect the children" or "protect freedom" it is invariably neither.

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HLMenckenFan 1 point 3 years ago
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viliam 26 points 3 years ago

Fine, so who will be judging if there's a depressive content on the internet, a psychologist? Also how about non-US sites, will they be banned or something?

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salient_one 25 points 3 years ago

Perhaps politicians should concentrate on making it so there's less depressing stuff in the world for anyone to see and hear, and not creating more of it with things like this rubbish bill. 🤷‍♀️

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pglpm 24 points 3 years ago

Culturally we're going back to the Middle Ages...

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BrianTheeBiscuiteer 11 points 3 years ago

Specifically the Dark Ages.

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ccf 23 points 3 years ago

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TimeSquirrel 1 point 3 years ago
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karrbs 22 points 3 years ago

Isn't this also the bill that could screw up encryption too?

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motorheadkusanagi 18 points 3 years ago

fuck the kids. out constitutional rights are more important.

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fubbernuckin 5 points 3 years ago

But, you know, don't fuck the kids.

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EatMyDick3 -5 points 3 years ago
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Xylight 18 points 3 years ago

woah no way

in other news, every sixty seconds in Africa, a minute passes.

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LexiconBexicon 11 points 3 years ago

Knowing Biden he's all in on this, he signed off on the Patriot Act too so f*** him

neoliberals are just as bad as Republicans

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Burn_The_Right 17 points 3 years ago

Neoliberals are conservatives. They go on the same smoldering pile.

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RobotToaster 6 points 3 years ago

"The United States is also a one-party state, but with typical American extravagance, they have two of them." - Julius Nyerere

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Burn_The_Right 2 points 3 years ago

My god that's brilliant!

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EnderWi99in -2 points 3 years ago

Not even close, but try again. They just look the same when you're so far left you need to squint to see anyone to the right of you. There is a massive gap between "neoliberals" as you call them, and the modern conservative electorate. Those "neoliberals" also represent the majority of voters on the left, hence the guy who is president being one of them. Stay mad though.

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Burn_The_Right -1 points 3 years ago

You sure know how to use a lot of words to say nothing.

Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Even when no cogent thought is formed.

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HellAwaits -1 points 3 years ago
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sturmblast 10 points 3 years ago

it has nothing to do with protecting children and everything to do with destroying privacy

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bappity 10 points 3 years ago

why is it always the worst laws proposed under the guise of protecting children

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jantin 7 points 3 years ago

Because you can't argue that. Any other ground reason for policy can be challenged or counterargued or relies on values which are arguable.

No one is going to plainly argue "ok but how about we do not protect children?". And if someone tries a different angle such as "this law is not really going to protect anyone and will bring a lot of problems for children and adults alike" it will be easily dismissed as "you insidious snake, why do you want to hurt children?! Don't sabotage child protection!". Which autokills conversation.

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infyrin 10 points 3 years ago
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Natha 8 points 3 years ago

Isn't it something that China has been doing for a while? In their version, it's called 'spreading positive energy'.

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jsnc 3 points 3 years ago

It's almost like everything the US said about China was just a projection of their own insecurities.

It might get to a point where China actually is relatively more liberating than "stable democracies" in internet access.

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hellfire103 7 points 3 years ago

What else is new?

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Diplomjodler 5 points 3 years ago

This headline could have been written 20 years ago.

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iMastari 4 points 3 years ago

Protect kids from guns would be better.

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EnderWi99in 4 points 3 years ago

Jack O'Neil's son would still be alive today if he didn't get a hold of his father's gun. But then we wouldn't have Stargate. It's sort of a toss up to me.

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throwing_handles 4 points 3 years ago
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WhyDoesntThisThingWork 3 points 3 years ago
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mtchristo -1 points 3 years ago

Maybe the Internet was a mistake ?

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FlyingSquid 9 points 3 years ago

Maybe leaving the trees was a mistake.

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db2 -1 points 3 years ago

Good luck with that. They can't even stop child abuse online and that's an actual problem that should be solved.

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Bonskreeskreeskree 1 point 3 years ago

Dunno why you're being downvoted

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ProfessorZhu -2 points 3 years ago

Why take a principled stand against those who are pushing this when you can just say "government" and leave everyone thinking this is a bipartisan problem?

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vlad76 7 points 3 years ago

Because it is a bipartisan problem.

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EatMyDick3 -7 points 3 years ago
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sour 1 point 3 years ago

Children

._.

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Taleya 1 point 3 years ago

One comment, wildly inflammatory, starts with T....

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