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MutatedBass 56 points 3 years ago

The main benefits of private trackers are:

  • Download speed. Many users of these trackers will use seedboxes to build ratio. This generally results in a faster download speed for peers.

  • Security. Many (but not all) private trackers have strict entry barriers, such as invite only or application based signups. This keeps copyright trolls out of their swarms, which eliminates the need for a vpn or other method of masking your identity. Depending on where you live this can range from a nicety to a necessity.

  • Longevity. Torrents generally live longer on private trackers.

  • Community. Some private trackers have a forum or IRC channel where you can interact with other community members.

  • Availability. Many private trackers will have a wider range of releases of a single media.

  • Quality. You will generally find higer quality releases on private trackers. That's not to say that high quality releases don't make it to public trackers, some do and some don't.

  • Faster releases. Releases will typically come to private trackers first. Many torrents originate on these trackers or come from scene groups and trickle down.

If you're finding everything you want on public trackers then you probably aren't missing anything. You could test the waters on TL or something next time they open.

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Ponyo240 16 points 3 years ago

Chat gpt wrote this.

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viral 10 points 3 years ago

i'm not entirely sure if it is but i'm inclined to agree with you, it's almost verbatim to chatgpt 3.0's writing style

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MutatedBass 45 points 3 years ago

I wrote it lol. Fuck do I really sound that much like a bot?

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sensibilidades 9 points 3 years ago

As a non-AI Learning Model, I cannot conclude one way or the other with any certainty. What I can say is that ChatGPT responses tend to follow a similar pattern:

  • Consistent and clear responses: ChatGPT will often respond to prompts with very readable, well-formatted bulleted lists
  • Socratic reasoning: Items in those lists will have a logical structure from beginning to end

Finally, ChatGPT responses tend to end those lists with a summarizing statement that restates the previous ideas - that ChatGPT will often respond in lists, use a formal and logical writing style, and end with a concise summary of the previous statements.

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priapus 6 points 3 years ago

No, people are just saying this whenever a comment has bullet points lol. You didn't have a tone similar to any LLM I know.

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Ponyo240 4 points 3 years ago

If you did write it, my apologies then. Take my comment as a compliment

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lolpostslol 2 points 3 years ago

When you bot-people take over, please remember I love bots and was always on your side

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ChemicalRascal 5 points 3 years ago

I frankly disagree. If I were to write a list of benefits of using private trackers (ergo, actually directly answer OP's question), that's exactly how I would write it and I'd very likely use a similar writing style.

Further, ChatGPT doesn't use the "<Topic>. <Further elaboration on topic>" format from what I've seen, and IMO wouldn't finish out the post with a recommendation to OP how they could get their feet wet with a particular private tracker.

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kestrel7 2 points 3 years ago
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treyd 1 point 3 years ago

I disagree, chatgpt would never write something like that last two sentences

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mochi 4 points 3 years ago

This is all good info. I still use a VPN with my private tracker though. You never know.

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42069 4 points 3 years ago

These are all great points, but I just wanted to add to the point about security that private trackers are typically very good about managing/minimizing the prevalence of malware on their platforms, whereas public trackers can have all sorts of fun surprises depending on what you're searching for.

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Jimmy 18 points 3 years ago
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MagicalRaccoon 15 points 3 years ago

For me:

  • Lifetime of torrents, honestly I rarely have dead torrents on private trackers. Also, most of them send an alert to previous seeders telling them one torrent needs some seeds. So for that it's WAY better than public.
  • Niche contents, I'm into rare movies and some movies are only available on private trackers (unfortunately), so yeah, for me no choice. Though I really miss VXT releases on RARBG :(.

Except that.. Not much. I think I still would keep my seedbox if I was on public trackers. Private or public, we all have to do our jobs and participate in seeding what we got :)

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PascalSausage 15 points 3 years ago

Better speeds, better access to niche content, arguably better privacy.

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plexnose 14 points 3 years ago
  • they are properly moderated so no fake torrents or malware (and anyone trying to upload those is immediately banned)
  • many have rules about formats, nfo files - another guarantee that your file is what it says it is
  • duplicates are not usually allowed - eg if an album already exists in FLAC format, you can’t upload another one
  • ratio requirements mean people almost always seed, and many use seed boxes which means speed is much faster. Movies download to my seed box in a couple of seconds typically.
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ancoraunamoka 14 points 3 years ago

I was using different private trackers but in the end dropped them and went back to public ones. One thing that private trackers may offer is the forum or the discussion board and plenty of user generated content. But in general there are many negative points:

  • the drama: lots of users feel entitled and there is a very negative attitude towards newcomers
  • less security: there was a time when an italian private tracker was caught and ended up giving the name and data of few active users. I don't buy that you have to use a legit email and no vpn.
  • you have to pay for a seedbox and always track your ratio: I seed forever most stuff (4k+ torrents) but I don't want this to become a time sink
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CmdrShepard 5 points 3 years ago

Counterpoint to these is that you don't have to participate in the drama, many allow you to use a VPN, and seedboxes aren't mandatory and you can just as easily permaseed to build ratio (via bonus points). What you say is true of some trackers but not with any that I've joined.

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Pulp 2 points 3 years ago

Skip the drama, just download and seed the torrents

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sh3ll 1 point 3 years ago

What was the italian tracker?

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ancoraunamoka 1 point 3 years ago

I am having troubles recalling the name right now. It was many years ago. I remember it was famous for having english subbed movies with italian subtitles, most of the time weeks before the title landed in the cinemas

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AvgApartheidLover 1 point 3 years ago

You also get access to a broad repository of the history of a particular torrent. Like ever preferred a really obscure version of your favorite torrent? Probably impossible to find unless it was a really popular Vidya game and there's a legacy torrent still seeding.

I've still got a Myanonamouse (Private Book Tracker) account purely because there are certain editions of books that quite literally don't exist in print except as a used copy on Amazon. But because some degenerate decided to commit all their scans to a Seedbox, ebook versions of obscure early science fiction now exist.

Very niche, but also incredibly useful if you come across something that you just can't find elsewhere.

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Eidolon 1 point 3 years ago

Haha, same with Mya. I love buying books but if it's not a literary classic, most old stuff doesn't get reprints, or ebook versions even. For me it's New Wave Science Fiction, Anthologies and Sword&Sorcery Fantasy stuff.

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idle 13 points 3 years ago

Private torrents are faster and safer. The downside is you typically have to maintain an upload ratio, which can be very hard to achieve without a seedbox.

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plexnose 3 points 3 years ago

The downside is you typically have to maintain an upload ratio, which can be very hard to achieve without a seedbox.

That's not a downside - the whole point is to promote seeding. Rent a seedbox for £5 a month and fill it with freeleech torrents and let it seed before you dive into downloading and you should easily be able to build a healthy ratio.

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idle 4 points 3 years ago

I understand the point, I have like 30TB uploaded on public trackers. It's a down side for the average user that does not have a seedbox or wants one.

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plexnose 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah - if your needs are met by public, then thats great. My seedbox is also my plex server, so for £10 a month I get an all in one solution - no risk of copyright hits, almost instant downloads that appear right on my plex server almost as soon as I add them. Funnily enough, the seedbox I use doesn't allow seeding on public trackers, only on private ones.

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pelikan 2 points 3 years ago

That's not just downside, that's two downsides - first is paying for seedbox, second is ever bothering with building ratio with freeleech torrents (meaning downloading stuff you don't need) 😉

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plexnose 2 points 3 years ago

The seedbox is well worth the investment. For the same price as some VPNs you have total protection from copyright trolls, and usually the option to use it as VPN anyway. As for downloading stuff you don't want - it doesn't matter - it's seeding for someone else. Just leave it on your seedbox and forget about it.

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Pulp 1 point 3 years ago

So choose if those downsides outweigh the upsides.

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rm_dash_r_star 13 points 3 years ago

You mean private trackers, yeah? The advantage is obviously they are not open to the public, which means copyright trolls need an account on the tracker to view the IP address of torrent participants. Secondly users are vetted for quality so the torrents on them are well seeded and trusted.

The advantage of a private tracker is also its disadvantage. You need to get through the vetting process. An invite and history are required to join which can be kind of a chicken and egg thing. It all takes some effort and facility.

If you don't have your own full time torrent server with high upload bandwidth, it's going to be difficult to get the seed ratios you need. Best thing there is to contract a seedbox. Even so you have to put the effort into working your way up to the ladder by getting a history of tracker accounts.

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ram 4 points 3 years ago

If you don’t have your own full time torrent server with high upload bandwidth, it’s going to be difficult to get the seed ratios you need.

I agree with this for some trackers, but many give bonus points based on passive seeding as well, which can then be exchanged to contribute to your upload ratio. Just having a large drive to use for seeding should be enough - that's what I've done at least for nearly 8 years now.

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SwingingKoala 12 points 3 years ago
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pelikan 12 points 3 years ago

If you are able to get all the content you need from public trackers and you don't worry about copyright agancies tracking you than there's no reason for you at all to bother with private trackers.

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ancoraunamoka 4 points 3 years ago

I agree and went with the same route. One thing that private trackers may offer is the forum or the discussion board and plenty of user generated content

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zebus 12 points 3 years ago

If you get in really exclusive ones you can bring it up in conversations as an icebreaker and put it on your resume

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ram 10 points 3 years ago

The main thing for me is that Private Trackers, because they incentivise continued seeding, will maintain greater activity for older torrents. People are even given bonus incentives for seeding content that has few seeders. As a result, older content and torrents that would be long dead in public trackers are still alive and well in the private ones, and when they become relevant again can be brought back to the public trackers.

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GeekFTW 10 points 3 years ago

Content you may not be able to find elsewhere (for example, MySpleen has tons of old discontinued/out of print content), as well as you aren't going to find copyright holders in private tracker swarms monitoring for IP's to have infringement notices sent to.

Downside: If you don't like seeding, you get to fuck yourself and get used to liking seeding or you lose your account.

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kakise 9 points 3 years ago

In short, more privacy and a curated library of content.

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KoboldCoterie 9 points 3 years ago

Public trackers' public nature means they're more likely to result in your activity being seen / tracked by entities you don't want it tracked by, for one. Ever gotten one of those letters from your ISP warning you not to download pirated shit? My understanding is that that's usually the result of using an insecure tracker.

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EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted 2 points 3 years ago

Or the lack of a VPN (specifically one that has a kill switch activated and to which the bittorrent client is bound).

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brickfrog 8 points 3 years ago

I have been able to find everything I wanted using public ones.

In your use case there is no benefit, just keep doing what you're doing now.

People do find it helpful to look into private trackers if there are things they can't find on public torrent indexers or if they are looking for higher quality releases.

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death916 3 points 3 years ago

Less likely to get a dmca notice from private

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Miyagi1337 8 points 3 years ago
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TheWozardOfIz 6 points 3 years ago

Access to content that isn't on public trackers and is well seeded for the most part.

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LoFi-Enchilada 5 points 3 years ago

Well, imagine private trackers being like subreddits or magazines in the Fediverse. There are private torrent communities that only share TTRPG books, files for FVX/Motion Graphics, Art/Photography books, Magazines from a certain era, STL files for 3D printing, etc. And all of these trackers have very strict filters for both posters and visitors so the quality of the content is top-notch.

In these trackers, there is stuff that you won't find elsewhere, period. Talking from experience... Good luck finding scans of Spanish tech/video game magazines from the 90s/00s, or copyrighted stuff like precise 3D models of Nintendo Switch's Joycon shells, out in the common web.

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lolpostslol 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah I join private trackers because they have freaky stuff you can’t find in normal places

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ripcord 2 points 3 years ago

My problem has been that I don't have any idea where to begin to look for these or get access.

I use a VPN, I have subscriptions to Usenet hosts and nzb trackers. I seed aggressively, especially stuff with low seeds or that I generally just think should be shared. But apparently not in the scene enough or tried hard enough to figure out a place that even has stuff I want besides the public ones.

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TornadoValley 5 points 3 years ago

Curation, breadth of access (less important if you don’t have obscure tastes which it sounds like you don’t OP, and that’s fine), quality control, security to a small degree, and community. Also if you get upload credit you can use the requests option and have some of the most rabid nerds on this world looking for what you want.

Top reason which people will be in denial about though is epeen

In short most people don’t need it and probably will never get in the most selective ones. If you’re not satisfied with public trackers or too worried you’re likely better off with Usenet or real-debrid.

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FermatsLastAccount 5 points 3 years ago

Only benefits for me are that they have faster download speeds and that I don't need a VPN.

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burndown 5 points 3 years ago

I think you get new releases faster and you can also request more obscure stuff too

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Headbangerd17 4 points 3 years ago

Recently joined one about a month ago. So far I can say the downloads are generally faster and older torrents are more reliably seeded. Otherwise I don't think you're missing much.

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orcrist 4 points 3 years ago
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plexnose 3 points 3 years ago

People say IPT does this it I’ve been a member for 10 years + and never had this. Never paid a penny. The key is to build a buffer - my ratio is some thing 8:1. Don’t donate, use the money to pay for a seed box, add some big free leech torrents (game packs, tv packs are usually solid choices) and just seed them forever. Free leech won’t impact your download total but will add your seed ratio.

What a lot of new users do is go crazy, build a massive ratio deficit and can never recover.

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briongloid 3 points 3 years ago

Usenet isn't too complicated once you install an NZB downloader.

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utg 4 points 3 years ago

For me it's their speed and safety. I've been using them since over a decade and I've never had any issues wrt viruses etc

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skdownloadfailed4me 4 points 3 years ago

Just less leecher and hit and run, nothing else if u are in a country who ignore dmca and where most of the people pirate without a profit

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sleepycrow 4 points 3 years ago

Typically you can find content at a higher quality than public trackers. For example, Movie X may be available through 1337x.to at 1080p but may be super compressed/have a lower bitrate.

You could go to a private tracker specializing in movies and find Movie X at 720p but with a higher bitrate so it looks better than the 1080p public.

If you find everything you need on public trackers that's great! I started using private when I couldn't find some foreign content or when I was looking for higher quality content.

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Saintzillla 3 points 3 years ago

@editediting

Anybody got one of them there invites? About time I check one out.

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flying_walrus 1 point 3 years ago

Me too please!

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poudlardo 3 points 3 years ago

I'd like to know too

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JWBananas 3 points 3 years ago

Upvote if you have fond memories of Oink's Pink Palace.

Boost if you were there when Trent Reznor dropped a chunk of his new album directly into the tracker.

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plexnose 1 point 3 years ago

Oink was awesome - strict rules on formats (FLACs. V0's - no transcodes) , sharing ratios so everyone had to seed, pretty sure they had rules on file and folder structure. Used to love getting full discographies from there.

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sewashi 2 points 3 years ago

only benefit I gained was a forum board to discuss and also that there were lots of seeders even for very obscure stuff

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d_bradr 2 points 3 years ago

Honestly to me it sounds like too much of a hassle keeping up with the conditions of all these PTs just in case you may want something specific one day that you can't find public. Only makes sense to bother with PTs if you constantly want stuff that you can't grab public and have the time to jump in on the new hot torrents that a lot of people would like to download so you ramp up the seed ratio (sounds too competitive for my liking)

Like how do you keep up with requirements if you're only gonna grab stuff from there a few times a yearwhen you can't find it public? And with so many PTs too, not just 1

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daniskarma 1 point 3 years ago

I used to be in a private tracker for spanish media some years ago.

Pros:

  • Curated content: good quality, everything was what it said it was and had the quality they said they had. And is often good quality.

  • Availability: authorities were not locking the web all the time like it happens with public trackers.

  • More content: in this case it was Spanish content, which can be hard to find sometimes in public trackers, specially good quality content.

  • Amazing speed and seed ratios, even for older torrents, everything was seeded and the speed was supperb.

  • Better search: everything had to be posted following a format, so searching was really easy.

  • Less malware risk: everything is well moderated so very small chances of running into malware.

Cons:

  • Strict rules: like very strick rules, you can get kick out really easy.

  • You have to seed: that's the point, and it's good etiquette while torrenting, but sometimes it is a burder having to fill the seed ratios for your torrents.

  • Sometimes they ask you to have specific hardware and connections to be able to join. Like a server with a seedbox.

I was incredibly happy with the tracker, but it suddenly closed one day, we found latter than the admin died, and nobody replaced him. To this day I haven't been able to enter another spanish tracker as all I know of are closed for new members. And english private trackers I've tried but I was kicked for inactivity, as it is true that for english content public tracked are not bad at all, so I wasn't using it that much, and inactivity is often cause of expulsion.

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N00dle 1 point 3 years ago

They tend to last longer being dying. Private torrents also tend to hand a larger collection.

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forkbomb9 1 point 3 years ago

For me, the principal benefit is content quality. For example, on movies you'll have the best possible release for every resolution, without having to go through every version and finding one that suits you.

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ILeftReddit 0 points 3 years ago

Effectively, there is no benefit. But if you are looking for really niche stuff you can't find on public trackers, you might have success on a private one with a focused category of torrents

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plexnose 4 points 3 years ago

Effectively, there is no benefit

Much faster download speeds, no malware, no fakes, no transcoded rubbish - there are plenty of benefits!

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