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It really is just another Rootkit.

3 years ago by Spudwart to c/memes

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FlexibleToast 92 points 3 years ago

I guess if you don't know what a rootkit is it could seem like one.

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c0mbatbag3l 43 points 3 years ago

This is the calmest, most insulting thing you could have possibly said.

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FlexibleToast 14 points 3 years ago

Thanks, often that's what I'm going for.

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PixxlMan 10 points 3 years ago

Yeah. This meme makes no sense..

Let's avoid misinforming people please. The reality is bad enough, no need to start lying and deceiving

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HellAwaits -5 points 3 years ago

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glibg10b 10 points 3 years ago

Memes can still inform (and misinform)

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Black_Gulaman 8 points 3 years ago

Yes specially if people don't know what a rootkit is. They'll think "ah, so this is an example of a rootkit, it must be because it is upvoted a lot, nice meme *upvotes"

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Blimp7990 3 points 3 years ago

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sounddrill 5 points 3 years ago

But the meme has the right intention. Google WILL deploy a rootkit to make it make sense

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superkret 8 points 3 years ago

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sounddrill 3 points 3 years ago

I am painfully aware

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superkret 9 points 3 years ago

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MooseBoys 1 point 3 years ago

While WEI definitely doesn’t qualify as a rootkit itself, any useful attester is going to require aspects of one - whether it’s a phone asserting that it hasn’t been rooted, or a PC running with approved SecureBoot and TPM keys.

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FlexibleToast 2 points 3 years ago

That's still not a rootkit. What do people think rootkits are?

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MooseBoys 2 points 3 years ago

Sure it is. A rootkit is a mechanism for hooking access to highly privileged execution levels of a device, masking its own presence, and persisting itself against removal. TPM + SecureBoot runs in firmware, more privileged than kernel mode. It analyzes the bootloader and other key boot parameters to verify they have not been tampered with. They can’t be disabled from within the OS. And sometimes they can’t be removed or disabled at all without someone finding a vulnerability, as in the case with phone rooting.

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FlexibleToast 2 points 3 years ago

Great, but using the TPM as intended is not a rootkit or anything like a rootkit. It's using a security device as intended.

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Spudwart -4 points 3 years ago

There’s no way to say this one way or the other until it’s implemented.

However to “verify” a system from a hardware level to any decent level of accuracy would require kernel level access.

Technically you’re correct, until you’re not.

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FlexibleToast 8 points 3 years ago

That's still not what a rootkit is. Lol

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MonkeyBusiness 58 points 3 years ago

Spudward is on a fucking crusade

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buckykat 30 points 3 years ago

A righteous one though

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balance_sheet -4 points 3 years ago

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pinkdrunkenelephants 2 points 3 years ago

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balance_sheet -4 points 3 years ago

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buckykat -1 points 3 years ago

Anybody who unironically calls things cringe should be disregarded.

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narwhalperson 4 points 3 years ago

Wow, you weren’t kidding.

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LeLachs 21 points 3 years ago

I don't think it'll go that far. What I'm more worried about is that the spec calls for multiple attesters. So Microsoft and others might even make their own under the spec.

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r00ty 12 points 3 years ago

Every platform that has a vested interest (e.g. is, or is a large contractor of advertising companies) will likely want in on this.

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Ubermeisters 7 points 3 years ago

If the choices are in or out, any company beholden to investors or shareholders won't really have a lot of options it seems.

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HawlSera 5 points 3 years ago

They are trying to cut off internet access so only paying customers can stay

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pivot_root 3 points 3 years ago

Color me surprised that it's Google that created and pushed for support of this shit.

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pivot_root 10 points 3 years ago

It doesn't matter if it goes short or far. This shit is DRM, and if any part of it makes it into browsers, it's the end of the web as we know it.

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EmperorHenry 3 points 3 years ago

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