I couldn't help but think of Emacs when I was reading A Constructive Look At TempleOS. It's like TempleOS that is actually finished, it just lacks kernel.

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ox0r 14 points 3 years ago

just lacks kernel.

Sounds like a trademark of GNU tbh

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mea_rah 8 points 3 years ago

GNU Hurd is going to be mainstream any minute now.

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ox0r 1 point 3 years ago

cough32bitcough

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subarctictundra 4 points 3 years ago

I'm sure the port to TempleOS is being worked on as we speak

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TopRamenBinLaden 4 points 3 years ago

Thanks for sharing. I have never seen that deep dive into templeOS before and it is a much more interesting OS than I anticipated.

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mea_rah 4 points 3 years ago

Yeah it's pretty amazing system all things considered. It's kind of as if 8-bit home computer systems continued to evolve, but keep the same principles of being really closely tied to the HW and with very blurry line between kernel and user space. It radiates strong user ownership of the system. If you look at modern systems where you sometimes don't even get superuser privileges (for better of worse) it's quite a contrast.

Which is why it reminds me of Emacs so much. You can mess with most of the internals, there's no major separation between "Emacs-space" and userspace. There are these jokes about Emacs being OS, but it really does remind me of those early days of home computing where you could tinker with low level stuff and there were no guardrails or locks stopping you.

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dot20 1 point 3 years ago

So you're saying it's like the GNU operating system?

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wim 17 points 3 years ago

Surely Elon would prefer the old Lucid fork, https://www.xemacs.org/

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AdmiralShat 12 points 3 years ago

What even is emacs

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Xylight 53 points 3 years ago

An extremely extensible text editor, there's jokes that it can do literally anything, you can play music, watch video, etc.

It's often at war with the cult of vi and the church of emacs.

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Weirdbeardgame 25 points 3 years ago

Don't forget us nanoites. The clearly superior text editor

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norawibb 28 points 3 years ago

nanoers just never figured out how to :wq

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synae 11 points 3 years ago

if you listen closely, you can still hear the terminal bells ringing of those that never managed to ESC

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hydroptic 5 points 3 years ago

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sylphio 11 points 3 years ago

obligatory xkcd

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drcobaltjedi 3 points 3 years ago

I don't do a lot of text editing in terminal, but I used to have to at my last job and I always reached for nano and gave instructions fot nano since it's just pick up and use.

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heimchen 6 points 3 years ago

Nano just feels sluggish as soon as you know vim keybindings. Emacs is a bit overkill for some quck edits, but nano is just to basic

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lukas 6 points 3 years ago

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257m 2 points 3 years ago

I've thinking of using Usenet. What client would you recommed for mobile and desktop?

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lukas 1 point 3 years ago

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barsoap 5 points 3 years ago

You should really convert to helixism, the latest messianic update to the cult of vi.

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siriusmart 4 points 3 years ago

ill try it again when it support pulgins

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barsoap 6 points 3 years ago

I mean it does support LSP, natively, I found that ultimately that's all the plugins I really need. It working out of the box and not requiring megabytes of configuration files is one of its great strengths.

If all you need is some customisation it's perfectly possible to write custom commands that execute sequences of commands. Including calling out to the shell and piping to and from external programs. Strictly static sequences though unlike the abomination that is vimscript they're not making keybindings a scripting language...

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pimeys 3 points 3 years ago

I'm a vim and emacs user for some decades already. I had this urge one day to try and work with helix. It kind of misses some things such as file manager or editorconfig support. Nine months later I'm still using helix. It still misses these things, but I really started to like how I don't need any plugins to work with it and I need about five lines of configuration to have a usable editor. Probably going to continue using it.

And it is written in Rust, which is my main language and I can just jump in to the editor source and fix things if needed.

I miss magit and org from emacs a lot though. Every time I need to write an article, I do it in emacs.

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llii 2 points 3 years ago

It's probably this, for all of you whou didn't know Helix before, like me: https://helix-editor.com/

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barsoap 2 points 3 years ago

Indeed. Make sure to start it with hx --tutor the first time around so you know how to quit :)

And no matter what you do when giving it a try do it in a time and place where you can go at least a week without vi as the command grammar is close yet different enough to completely confuse your muscle memory, you don't want to mix them up (helix uses a strict selection-action command set so you get 'wd' instead of 'dw' and stuff).

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 13 points 3 years ago

Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping

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hydroptic 5 points 3 years ago

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aport 8 points 3 years ago

A self-documenting, extensible lisp computing environment that uses text buffers as its main data format.

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hackris 11 points 3 years ago

Which video player did you use?

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siriusmart 18 points 3 years ago

im a vim user, i dont usually put videos players in my text editor

otherwise, i use mpv for desktop

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goodnessme 8 points 3 years ago

It's possible to watch videos in the terminal as ASCII art with both vlc and mplayer, by the way.

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saud 3 points 3 years ago

mpv --vo=tct

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hackris 1 point 3 years ago

Sorry mate, my tired brain interpreted the post in the picture as something you've written :)

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ZodiacSF1969 2 points 3 years ago

OP did write the part you're referring to lol

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hackris 2 points 3 years ago

Oh man, I really should be getting more sleep :D

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victron 6 points 3 years ago

Late 30s dev here: I've never cared to learn emacs or vim, tried when younger, but left it. Am I a fraud?

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edriseur 5 points 3 years ago

I used to be a vim fan but now I only use it for modifying files over SSH. Other than that I code with an IDE, you can't beat all the plugins and linters with a in-terminal editor. A colleague still codes in emacs and its code is dirty af.

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Ajen 5 points 3 years ago