Shorten Your Food Chain

3 years ago by j_roby to c/gardening

mookulator 110 points 3 years ago

I appreciate the idea but this is a little misleading. They chose to label transportation for farmers markets but not CSA boxes. There is obviously transportation involved in both.

They highlight delivery as a step in the food delivery service, but don’t label it similarly when the consumer goes to the store to pick it up. I might argue there’s efficiency in having one delivery driver vs everyone acting as their own delivery driver.

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lunarul 10 points 3 years ago

I might argue there’s efficiency in having one delivery driver vs everyone acting as their own delivery driver.

Afaik food delivery services have drivers fulfill orders one by one. So it's essentially the same thing if you go there yourself or if the delivery driver does it.

It's more efficient when one truck delivers to multiple people. Like CSA boxes. Instead of each of those people driving their own car to the store/market and back, there's one car that delivers to them all in a single route.

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IndiBrony 16 points 3 years ago

Here in the UK it depends what delivery service you're using. Supermarkets have a dedicated team of staff who organise approximately 45±10 deliveries per van per day. One store I worked for had 21 vans.

That helped save the journey of approximately 900 people. I think most would agree having 20 vans on the road is preferential to having 900 cars.

On the flip side, we also have services which deliver from small local shops and get basic shopping supplies to you within an hour, and these are far less efficient in terms of their footprint.

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Pyroglyph 4 points 3 years ago

They also merged packaging/distribution for supermarkets, but separated them for food delivery services.

This isn't a very good chart.

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candybrie 2 points 3 years ago

My farm CSA pickup is at the farm. Whereas the farmer's markets aren't.

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looz 61 points 3 years ago

I think this is quite misleading in the sense that a full truck carrying goods is very efficient per good item when compared to everyone carrying a couple meals in their private cars.

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aurelian 10 points 3 years ago

But what if you use your bike instead :3

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looz 11 points 3 years ago

That could turn the whole situation in supermarkets' favour due to efficient supply chain.

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doingthestuff -1 points 3 years ago

I don't have a bike because if I rode a bike on these roads I'd be dead. My grown kids never even learned how to ride.

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ArmokGoB 1 point 3 years ago

Just ride on the sidewalk and almost hit pedestrians every day like the people in this city.

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doingthestuff 1 point 3 years ago

There isn't a sidewalk within miles of me, or even a shoulder on the road. Just fast, windy two-lane roads with lots of truck traffic.

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lud 43 points 3 years ago

Why is packing and distribution two items on only the last one?

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BeeOneTwoThree 2 points 3 years ago

I understand it like it is a service like foodora. So first they need to create the ingredients, package and sell them to the restaurants. The second packaging and delivery is home to you

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ZILtoid1991 35 points 3 years ago

How to shorten your free time

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the_third 15 points 3 years ago

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doingthestuff 1 point 3 years ago

Also nothing grows here. I tried a garden just once after moving here.

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cumcum69 31 points 3 years ago

In terms of carbon emissions, WHAT you eat is far more impactful than WHERE it came from

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reddig33 24 points 3 years ago

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Tb0n3 7 points 3 years ago

You could try living somewhere other than hell.

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mookulator 15 points 3 years ago

Come visit the beautiful South Pole! Newly thawed and ready for development!

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dannoffs 4 points 3 years ago

Fr. I live literally 20 minutes from mountain peaks on a major US interstate that close during winter because of heavy snow and it was 112 today when I got in my car today.

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portifornia 4 points 3 years ago

Easier said than done man, real estate is gnarly outside of hellish markets right now!

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j_roby 2 points 3 years ago

There's ways to mitigate the amount of water used and it's retention in the soil.

I also frequently have temps in the 100's in the summer here - it's meant that there's just certain things I can't grow and some that are risky. But there's plenty of veggies that can handle that kind of heat.

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Num10ck 5 points 3 years ago

does hydroponics count as gardening?

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Magrath 3 points 3 years ago

Yes

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Praxinoscope 18 points 3 years ago

Meat consumption adds extra steps of growing food and feeding the animals as well

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Clent -12 points 3 years ago

Found the vegan.

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Ichipurka 16 points 3 years ago

Veganism, or at least a diet reduced in meat is one of the best ways to help offset your own carbon footprint.

Which is what this infographic tries to promote.

That’s just the facts, weather you or me choose to eat meat or not.

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Clent -13 points 3 years ago

Your carbon footprint is a concept created by the oil industry.

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idiomaddict 10 points 3 years ago

That’s why I go on carnivore cruises to Antarctica. My individual choices can’t matter, so fuck it. Plus, there’s no littering laws in the open ocean.

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crystal 2 points 3 years ago

The oil industry, which is paid by you.

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Philipp 1 point 3 years ago

Please explain.

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Shanedino 10 points 3 years ago

Forgot the couple people at farmers markets that buy from supermarkets.

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socsa 5 points 3 years ago

The last two are the same. Except you are replacing 100 individual automobile trips to the grocery store at peak hours with one van driving around for 8 hours.

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TvanBuuren 2 points 3 years ago

No, at the market the packaging is less, sometimes even a single bag that holds everything. Some even let you bring your own bag.

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Mojojojo1993 4 points 3 years ago

Unfortunately we were growing our own food but now have to move to a rental. Barely afford to live let alone buy stuff to grow at a rental.

Real shame. I prefer my food not packaged in plastic covered in poison.

Life aye.

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Hypnosis4162 2 points 3 years ago

Misleading. How about adding the inputs before Garden/Farms? It makes more sense if we compare the efficiency of both generating and transporting one unit of food.

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rich 1 point 3 years ago

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