Trump Demands Washington Commanders Return To Original Name 'Immediately' - Newsweek
a year ago by miss_demeanour to c/politics
Honestly, that’s a fucking brilliant idea. That’ll make him avoid that shit like the plague.
Have John Oliver make a giant dancing folder mascot name The Wonderful Secret.
Will this distract my base from Epstein?
In fact, it will. Advantage: demented rapist
yeah.
If I hear some one use the other term, my plan is to confront them about using "pedo" language. If they insist, I'll shift to questioning their support for a pedo.
There is a cognitive dissonance that's been set up where their love and obedience to Trump is tied in with an alleged "hate" of 'pedos'. I mean it's obviously bullshit but you can skewer someone who can't disambiguate the two using this approach and create a situation in their mind they can't handle.
This is a distraction from the Epstein files.
Which in turn was just a distraction from... Shit... I can't even remember.
Nah, that would be true if this shit never happened and suddenly came up due to the Epstein files. I agree that Trump loves distractions of the fact that he is a child rapist but this shit happens every day, this is Wednesday afternoon news of no value.
Yeah but this is rage bait. The child rapist is still President.
The other Indians are also probably more interested in Cricket than this.
We play stickball. It’s what lacrosse is based on.
I'm still confused because it seemed like a few years ago they wanted to be called Indians but for years everyone was being corrected to call them Native Americans. Can I just call them by their tribe name or is this an insult now too?
It’s not too confusing. Call a person by what they want to be called. I think it’s more respectful to call them native Americans.
I’d also say in this case the brand name Indians, Chiefs, and any other should be handed over to the tribes, and then licensed out however they see fit.
I also think they should have 2 senators, a US rep and an electoral college vote.
Ah, but generic names like "Indians" and "Chiefs" dont really belong to one tribe, do they? We do have teams that are named after tribes specifically, like the Blackhawks. (Although Wikipedia says the team was named after an army regiment, which was named after the tribe.) And if you get into college sports, you have a lot more.
People may find those less objectionable because there is a tribe or a group of people who the team can say they represent, and get some culturally appropriate context to the team name. But calling a team "Indians" seems analogous to calling a team the "Asians" or the "Europeans".
The systemic oppression of the native population also has something to do with it. Nobody complains about the Padres and their Friar logo, or the handsomely Nordic logo for the Vikings. But that could be because they didn't get treated the same way.
While I agree that there are details that would need to be worked out, it’s not as impossible as you’re making it sound.
I’m sure the existing tribes have some form of leadership. Put them in a room together and have them work it out.
I disagree that others groups need to be addressed at the same time. Let’s focus on fixing one issue on its own instead of trying to fix every issue at once. That’s scope creep, and it’s never a good thing.
Lastly, your example of teams being named “Asians” or “Europeans” is not the same, else we would have those names.
My understanding is Native is generally fine, many have reclaimed "Indian" for themselves but results may vary. If you do know a person's affiliation then that's obviously fine too.
That's fair. What would be your advice?
People, we can not waste time focusing on the fact that President of the United States, Donald Trump, was best friends with the world's most notorious pedophile, Jeffery Epstiens, for 15 plus year and is currently trying to cover up the fact that he was most sertently a client if one looks at even the most broad meaning of "wonderful secrets".
We must focus on the more important things like... checks notes
Bringing back real sugar in Coke
Hillary Clinton's Emails despite Trum admins actually sharing OPSEC details with a reporter
You know the important stuff of the things that really matter to the people
That article doesn't say what you think it says. The family of the man pictured in the logo wanted to keep it because it was it of the most widely seen images of a Native American. The family themselves don't seem to care about the name much. Other groups do though.
I was never a big fan about the wholesale elimination of native-inspired team names, because I always felt the iconography was more offensive. There could have been tasteful ways for Cleveland to keep the "Indians" name, but it was clear years ago that Chief Wahoo had to go. Same for Chief Nokahoma (who I think the Braves retired in rhe 80s), and every team with a Tomohawk in their logo.
The Redskins were always a different case. The logo wasn't quite so offensive, but try naming a team the Spics, Honkeys, or Japs and see how people like that. The name had to go. They could have named the team after the Blackfeet tribe, somehow, and kept the logo. But once they abandoned native names, the logo had to go.
It's too bad the Washington Generals was already taken, that would have been awesome. In retrospect, they should have kept Washington Football Team....
I will second this motion of changing the name from Washington Commanders to Washington Epsteins.
Lets go, return it back to the Washington Football Team
🤦
Every day that you think you couldn't be more embarrassed is a lie.
Everyone would actually remember they are from D.C. and not the state of Washington if you called them that.
Edit for fun fact: Washington D.C. is more than 300km closer to the equator, than it is to the capital of Washington.
Washington War Criminals - on Memorial Day, veterans go free, even when they shouldn’t.
My brain immediately when to the Navajo Code Talkers... Does that make me an asshole of just show where my historical focus is?
stupid sexy potatoes
RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES.
He probably wants to force them to sell the team back to Dan Snyder, too. Trump and Snyder do seem to be men cut from the same cloth.
This is really the kind of thing that motivates Taco and his base.
Meanwhile....where are those Trumpstein files?
Idgaf. You're a rapist, Trump. A pedofile. A vile excuse for a human being APART from being a tyrannical wannabe dictator. Fuck off and die already.
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