If the paid API wasn't rolled out as a complete trainwreck I'd probably be paying. And probably wouldn't be here, too.
Relay was my app for 12 years so I wish him well with this but I'm not planning on going back to using it or reddit.
That post seems to be missing.
Alexstarfire 22 points 3 years ago
Momentum/inertia
If the changes don't directly affect people most of them won't change their ways. That's just how it is.
Psythik 9 points 3 years ago
To get answers to specific questions, written by a actual human. That's the only thing I still use it for. Why deal with pages upon pages blogspam written by bots, when you can simply add site:reddit.com to your searches and get an answer immediately? I can't wait for the day when Lemmy grows enough that I no longer have to do that.
lvxferre 7 points 3 years ago
A lot of people are "stuck" because of the content still there, like Psythik said; you either look for info in Reddit or you get to navigate through blogspam. (I do the later because I'd rather not give Reddit more traffic. Screw it. Complex websearching techniques alleviate the issue.)
Others are like this:
altima_neo 36 points 3 years ago
Yeah, that was going to be the outcome of all the third party apps. I get the feeling a lot of people didnt understand that.
And theres nothing wrong with that. I mean, it sucks, but reddit wanting to make money from giving access to its APIs to third parties is fine. What wasnt fine was the ridiculous price they pulled out of their ass, and the lack of any real time for app developers to prepare for it (this was Apollo's issue with the situation).
But had the API pricing been reasonable and a fair timeframe for app developers to implement it, this is what we would have seen, all the third party apps charging a subscription to access reddit. The other option would have been a higher initial cost for the app, to cover costs for the estimated average liftime of the app.
lvxferre 4 points 3 years ago
Yeah, that was going to be the outcome of all the third party apps.
Yup, it's no surprise for me either. Still something to document about it.
And theres nothing wrong with that.
Besides being done in a scummy way (that you already addressed), it's overall bad for the platform in the long term. Those third party apps didn't generate direct profit, but they generated value - it was yet another "chain" keeping users in Reddit, as the official app is trash. And Reddit consistently picked features from those apps to actually improve theirs, now this is gone.
NightOwl 7 points 3 years ago
I never understood why reddit didn't go to asking for a cut of the third party sales for a revenue sharing model over this api usage tier.
But then a look at the permissions asked of the official reddit app made me understand.
lvxferre 3 points 3 years ago
But then a look at the permissions asked of the official reddit app made me understand.
Data-mining, right? It's that sort of shady as fuck activity that every business and their subsidiary dog is doing nowadays. If not for that, theoretically they could feed the advertisement directly into the third party apps, or demand them to show ads from Reddit in order to operate. (They'd probably do it - their devs were eager to dialogue, before the recent events.)
NotMyOldRedditName 1 point 3 years ago
Reddit Is Fun actually had a revenue sharing agreement with reddit.
Spez ripped it up when he came back as CEO
autotldr 13 points 3 years ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The costs of a subscription will go up based on a user’s daily average number of API calls, essentially meaning that the more things a person does in the app, the more they might have to pay.
Here is the full list, from developer DBrady’s post, which appears to include Google’s take of the subscription and Relay’s expected revenues:
In the newest release of Relay, DBrady says they also added the ability for users to see their average daily API calls.
The plan is for a subscription to roll out in two or three weeks from the time of their post and they expect to charge a monthly cost of $3 or $4.
“This won’t cover the cost of ‘super users’ who use the app all day, but, on average, it should allow me to pay the Reddit API bill,” the developer said.
Many subreddits and users protested against the switch to the paid API in-party because of its effect on the third-party app ecosystem.
I'm a bot and I'm open source!
gravitas_deficiency 9 points 3 years ago
Wow, they’ve really accelerated the enshitification, haven’t they?
NightOwl 9 points 3 years ago
How addicted does someone have to be to pay to use reddit. Average reddit users is probably fine fine with the official app or moved to browser so would also see this type of reddit user as bizzare. Would like to know how much they rack up in fees using reddit.
magnetosphere 7 points 3 years ago
At this point, fine. Whatever. A fool and his money are soon parted.
lvxferre 4 points 3 years ago
Whynim seeing this on Memmy ?
If you meant "why I'm seeing this on Lemmy?": because this is a community about Reddit going downhill. That's it.
Gotta love it
Ditto - I want to see Reddit gone. I wish that it happened earlier, but beggars can't be choosers.
JRichardson 2 points 3 years ago
I use Reddit quite frequently. Spez (the Co-owner) ist just trying to be like Mark Zuckerberg. He thinks he can do whatever he thinks is necessary for profit. He could really care less about his fan base, or users on the site.
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