[drinking intensifies]
ThatWeirdGuy1001 4 points a year ago
It's always astonishing to me how we have record lows of alcohol usage while everything burns around us.
TheThrillOfTime 34 points a year ago
We're so fucked
confusedpuppy 29 points a year ago
It's hard watching the people around me make the same mistakes they always make and complain about the same mistakes they always make.
It's hard watching large organizations and states make the same mistakes they always make and blame everyone else for the mistakes they always make. Even when history proves them wrong.
I can never understand why people argue for 8+ billion people on this planet when we collectively refuse to learn from mistakes.
I'm tired...
confusedpuppy 8 points a year ago
before I jump to conclusions.
Population control is not a solution.
I didn't state anything about population control.
I'm merely exhausted by the complexity that people must deal with for each person we add to this planet. That complexity would be far more manageable if humans didn't reproduce exponentially.
Yes we can support support 8 billion people. But why? From my understanding we got here mainly because capitalism and war has a high demand for warm bodies.
Maybe we can learn from our mistakes and deal with them rather than making excuses to remain on course for pain, suffering and disaster. Us humans learning and overcoming our current situation has the benefit for all life on this planet.
homura1650 2 points a year ago
We got here pre-modern medicine has a high demand for babies (most of whom will die before reproducing). And agrarianism has a high demand for children (who become productive workers on the farm young).
Developed countries almost universally have birth rates below replacement levels. Their populations have internalized the facts that babies will almost always survive into adulthood. And children are a massive economic cost for decades. And that cost is often never paid back to the parents who incurred most of it. As long as contraceptives continue to make children typically a choice, and you get sub replacement levels of reproduction.
Sure, the capitalists would like for there to be more children to grow into workers and keep the machine humming along. However, they would also like to not pay for that; and by and large haven't been.
LustyArgonianMana 3 points a year ago
This, we have the ability to support everyone anyway.
People like solving problems with killing and death because they've been taught to do this, and it is such an easy cop out. Don't want to train you dog? Kill it. Problem solved. Don't want to trim your tree or pick up leaves in the fall? Kill it, chop it down, problem solved.
This provides enough serotonin and dopamine when faced with issues, that it conditions people to use "kill it" as an easy solution for everything. Even if it isn't the solution they settle on, it is such a habit and so comforting neurochemically that they will make like reflexive quips to keep it as a fantasy option even. Too many people in their opinion? Kill em, feels great, problem solved, easy, never even had to think but I feel as satisfied as if I DID think
Bytemeister -1 points a year ago
We should provide education on safe sex, and access to reproductive healthcare as basic human rights.
THATSFUCKINGNAZISSHIT!
Lauchmelder 3 points a year ago
This is a huge inference from what was originally said. The guy you're replying to has a point, the problem isn't that there's 8 billion of us, and saying we need to stop population growth to solve our problems does border on eco fascism.
Sex ed and sexual healthcare is important for other reasons, as you mentioned, but we need to stop saying shit like "we're the virus" because it's just eco fascism
Bytemeister 1 point a year ago
Personally, I can't think of a reason why we should have more people on the planet. This isn't an argument for actively reducing the the number of people, but instead providing the tools, education, and laws to allow people to manage their family sizes to cap or at least reduce population growth.
FYI, we are the virus. Humanity is multiple extinction events happening at the same time. If we are going to survive, then we need to be the kind of virus to integrates into our host's DNA, and not the kind that destroys all the cells and delicate structures that allow our host to exist in the first place.
Bytemeister 0 points a year ago
But I donโt know why I bother even mentioning that because you donโt sound like the person to have an intelligent conversation with anyway given the conclusion you jumped to from my comment.
That was the tongue-in-cheek point of my comment about you jumping to conclusions about the previous comment. They said that they don't think more people on the planet is beneficial, and you went straight to calling people them an eco-nazi without bothering to understand what they meant.
Woosh.
LustyArgonianMana 23 points a year ago
It's honestly agonizing.
Some of it is just natural aging and realizing fellow adults don't grow up intellectually with you. Like how can a 35yr old not know that Alaska isn't an island?
But then some of it is societal regression via memes and lack of pursuing further education.
So the 2 things together have me pretty pissed
NotASharkInAManSuit 6 points a year ago
Time is a mother fucker of a flat circle and it only has around 100 years on it.
MousePotatoDoesStuff 2 points a year ago
looks at climate graph
I WISH TIME WAS A 100 YEAR CIRCLE.
okamiueru 6 points a year ago
Problem with learning history is that if you have the bare minimum of morals and concept of fairness, USA ends up looking like the root cause for many current global problems. Look a bit further back, and UK and parts of Europe gets iffy.
_AutumnMoon_ 6 points a year ago
I never thought I would see anyone else say it, finally!
some_guy 4 points a year ago
Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. Those who know are doomed to know that it's repeating.
Somehow, I like their phrasing a little better. Feels more like what I experience reading the news.
outhouseperilous 2 points a year ago
You should learn history and fo lots of unhalants and wear a toga so you can nail yoyr Cassandra larp.
outhouseperilous 2 points a year ago
No. I learned too much history and hurt myself saying itoldyouso too hard.
BurgerBaron 2 points a year ago
I wish it was just ignorance.
baltakatei 2 points a year ago
๐ โ Yang Wen-Li
DeathsEmbrace 0 points a year ago
Were already trying to one up Hitler.
go to feed...
go to feed...
The bad guys also learn. They learn how to replicate shit while having a plauible deniability baked in to avoid any real consequences.
It's the cult that wholesale buys into these tactics that create a barrier for any progress or justice.
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