Pixel 5a 5G was the last Pixel that had an audio jack. I held onto mine forever, until Graphene stopped support for the model.

I upgraded to the 7a, and then bit the bullet and bought a separate DAP for music.

The biggest adjustment to using Graphene is often just having to finding open-source app solutions that don't require Google Play, assuming you don't want to run the sandbox. I found the process cathartic, personally.

is it something you'd recommend for a privacy worried user?

Absolutely

I assume google headphones would cease to work if I degoogle the device

They'll work perfectly.

Is there a pixel device with a jack port?

No.

Are batteries inside pixel devices glued to the frame or can they be easy to change?

They are glued, like all modern devices.

My main OS is debian. How easy is to transfer data from GrapheneOS to debian and the other way round?

Very easy with KDEConnect/GSConnect.

Overall if you run GrapheneOS on a pixel, how many years running it and what do you think about it?

About 4 years. I like everything about it. The only thing I don't like is that it can't solve problems inherent in Google's monopoly. So some Google Play apps will not work and notifications won't work without Google's proprietary Google Play Services or one of the super rare apps that support unifiedpush. The vast majority of developers don't publish their apps outside of the Play Store, and almost none of them support anything other than Google's FCM for notifications. Google Pay simply won't work at all.

Literal best phone I've ever had. Never had any problems getting apps to work. That said, idk whats going to happen now with the changes to the aosp

I have used GrapheneOS on and off for 3 years or so.

I used to be on LineageOS with root. I did that so I could run a firewall, and have complete control over every aspect of my OS.

I tried GrapheneOS before they had ability for android auto. But lacking that, caused me to switch.

While my ultimate goal is to ditch big tech, Google, Microsoft, apple, etc I have to compromise a bit for some functionality.

That being said, having sandboxed Google Play has helped. Something I didn't have on LineageOS.

Getting data to and from Debian won't be an issue. Plug it in, and copy files to and from. Ezpz.

I use Arch BTW. And have had zero issues. So Linux compatability isn't an issue.

As far as getting a Pixel with a headphone jack, that May be an issue. Security updates and software updates for a model with one may be an issue.

I have had GrapheneOS on a Pixel 7 Pro, and now an 8 Pro.

As much as I hate Google, I do like pixels. The 7 pro was miles better than my 8 pro.

I want to add, without Google play, you can still use Accrescent and Obtainium. While Accrescent is good, it has few apps. Obtanium you can pull from GitHub, F-Droid, Gitlab, and more and will check for updates.

I use both.

(you may want to post this to !privacy@lemmy.ml or a similar community... I suppose GOS uses the Linux kernel technically but I think this community is for desktop Linux lol)

GOS is really nice. It's very seamless and user-friendly, whilst still being very unbloated and minimal. You still have everything you'd expect to have on a phone but the environment is nicely minimal and lets you only install the software you want.

I've been using GOS as my exclusive mobile OS for many years, never had any technical problems with it.

You can use bluetooth headphones or usb-c headphones. Including the bluetooth headphones google sells. Afaik they are still just bluetooth headphones.

How easy is to transfer data from GrapheneOS to debian and the other way round?

Easy: https://wiki.archlinux.org/...

pixel is meh

GrapheneOS is fucking amazing

I'm a week into using GrapheneOS and its been great. It is a little restrictive in that I seem to have to explicitly allow apps to run and apps like my Bank app or Spotify don't work.

However, most apps are just Web Apps at this point and I've noticed very little difference in the use of the app versus the pinned browser version.

I'm also trying to curb a phone addiction so Graphene + Lemmy + Mastodon + Jellyfin is all I'm using on this thing.

I assume google headphones would cease to work if I degoogle the device

I'm using my Pixel Buds. They work just as well. Remember, its just a Bluetooth device just without all the QOL stuff like voice control.

I recommend trying it. Graphene OS install also has instruction ions to revert if you change your mind. And it's pretty easy. Maybe a touch harder than installing Linux generally, but if your dailying Debian, you're fine.

About 2 years for me. It's a better experience than vanilla Android except that tap to pay doesnt work.

Other than that one downside it's been nothing but an improvement. so much more control over what apps can access, and what Google services to use (if any). Google services are treated like any other app, and can therefore be easily sandboxed.

If you have a compatible device i highly recommend GrapheneOS. I'm pretty unhappy with the build quality and camera on my Pixel (7 Pro), but that was all the same on Android.

I really wish GrapheneOS supported another brand of device. Pixels are way overpriced for how cheaply put together they are, but i'd rather have a meh phone with real security than a nice one with just security theater

It works great with Linux for me, i expect Debian will have no issues

Debian and GOS user here. Worth noting, if you cable the phone to your Debian system, on the phone you must explicitly tell GOS to use the phone in MTP File Transfer mode, if you wanna transfer files. Starting with Android 6, upon cabling a phone to a USB port on a system, the default behavior is just to charge the phone's battery.

Love GOS, but my bank app won't work with it.

Also, 3.5mm audio jacks on phones are phasing out. So I bought an Onix Alpha DAC to use my hi-fi Sennheiser headphones (3.5mm cable) to USB-C. I'm into hi-fi audio, so a DAC for me was a must.

• Buy second-hand or discounted old stock from a reseller to minimize your contribution to Google.
• Unless one of the apps you are forced to use requires Google Play Integrity, GrapheneOS will be compatible with any Android app, even providing sandboxed Google Play services if needed.
• For apps so invasive as to require Play Integrity, you might be better off leaving them on a secondary phone with stock Android and powered off when not in use.
• The Pixel 5a is the last Pixel device with a headphone jack, but no longer receives GrapheneOS updates. You may want to consider USB-C headsets, which are usually also compatible with computers, and require no extra dongles.
• If the Google headphones work over Bluetooth, they will also work with GrapheneOS. No experience with Google headphones, but I only missed out on customizable shortcuts and device renaming when I opted not to install the companion app for my earbuds.
• Everybody warns against using out-of-date GrapheneOS devices, but that's not very satisfying. Yes, they will have open vulnerabilities. But as long as you install apps from reputable sources, the chance of being attacked via outdated Android is very low, provided you are not being targeted by an agency.
• That said, grab a more recent Pixel if you can for security updates into the 2030s.
• All Pixel devices have enclosed batteries, most are quite frustrating to remove, particularly the 9a. There's a decent chance of breaking the screen if it has to be removed in the battery replacement process. Won't recommend it, but I have considered buying one with a bloated battery just so the adhesives are already removed for me.
• Transferring files to and from any Linux distro works just fine, as with any Android device, bearing quirks of the mtp protocol in mind. LocalSend can be used for wireless file transfer. rsync requires a workaround.
• I've used GrapheneOS for the past 4-ish years. I'll admit I had a head start since my workflow wasn't too smartphone-dependent in the first place and I had already begun pulling myself out from Apple and Google services back then. Everything just works and I would never look back.

I have been running GOS for 5 years now on my pixel 4a. Planning to snag a new 9a during black friday sales. Hardware is fine, but I want security updates.

I run my banking through vanadium browser with non-foss 2fa app in a separate profile.

Facebook messenger works, but whatsapp nevers works properly for me. Trying to migrate friends and family to signal.

I mostly use LocalSend to transfer files between my computer and phone. Photos and folders are synced with my synology nas.

Summary: I'm happy with GOS, great battery life and no distracting ad-bloated apps. Can run most apps with google play in separated profiles.

Current Pixels sadly no longer have a headphone jack.

The Pixel 8as battery can be replaced through the back side, but the 8 & 8 Pro battery can only be replaced by removing the screen first. Idk about Pixel 9/10(a/Pro).

GrapheneOS is like any other Android for things like data transfer. Plug in via USB or your preferred wireless protocol.

It's great, works even better than desktop Linux tbh. I heard devs are planning GrapheneOS for desktops, which should be great and secure as well!

I switched to it this past winter, same time I moved from Windows to CachyOS on my desktop, and I haven't looked back on either device since.

Debloats the hell out of the thing, and personally I love how deeply documented everything is. Reasons and justifications are given for every design decision, but it's also not an extremely opinionated ecosystem - if you need a google app or w/e for any reason, the option is there. there are some limitations like the integrity API dogshit, but for the most part, it's a near flawless experience.

Works great for me on my pixel 7 but you have to be aware that you loose some stuff too unfortunately.

Not all banking apps work and payment using your phone is completely out.

If you care about it, the health stuff also isn't available

Most people say they have problems with banking apps and android auto. But you can run google play services and store sandboxed. I don't know if it than still has these problems. I don't have graphene for now but maybe in the future.

It's overall a pretty good experience, but there's occasional weirdness you may run into. For instance, up until a month or two ago I was encountering a bug that caused my phone to basically slow to a crawl after running Android Auto for 20 minutes or so, with a reboot being the only solution. This happened once while I was driving somewhere unfamiliar and it took about 5 minutes to start back up due to app optimization (which, incidentally, I don't remember being a thing on other Android flavors after 2018 or so) so it turned into a whole adventure.

There's also a fairly persistent issue I've run into where GrapheneOS starts very aggressively killing background apps, like as soon as another app gains focus. Not sure what that's about but I haven't really encountered it on other Android versions to the same extent, so I'm inclined to think it's GOS-specific.

The only thing stopping me from jumping is proper work profile support