Woosh .... that's a strawman
It's not the point of the post, they're using hitler as an allegory to explain the point, not comparing the two.
paraphrand 14 points a year ago
I don’t think comparing him to hitler is good rhetoric. Other nazi’s, sure.
GreenKnight23 8 points a year ago
you're giving him too much credit. Goebbels was at least a leader.
Charlie was expendable, and that's why he died.
Stern 3 points a year ago
TPUSA deffo was/is an influence, to wit: folks on the professor watchlist got plenty of threats from anonymous shitters. Anyhow, the intent behind the hypothetical is pretty clear, nitpicking it because there wasn't a hypothetical Charleston Kirkenschmitt who went to German colleges and told people to debate him is a waste of everyones time.
Cethin 4 points a year ago
It's not comparing him to Hitler. It's pointing out that everyone has a line where killing them is better than not, and Hitler is the extreme example that everyone should agree that killing him is better. It isn't making the case Kirk is past that line for everyone, but pointing out the idea it's never allowed is stupid.
People can debate whether it is worth it in this case if they want. However, the thought terminating cliche that it's never acceptable should be ignored. Pointing to Hitler is a good way to dispel that idea for people.
sanpedropeddler -13 points a year ago
Imo this is arguable, because there was really nothing special about charlie kirk. He was a cog in a machine that will be quickly replaced. The real impact of the assassination will come from people's reaction to it, not the lack of charlie kirk.
beetus 15 points a year ago
He was described as having better access than Republican senators. He had the ear of the president. He had millions of followers. They are flying the flag at half mast. The president called him legendary. Look at the outpouring of support for his family.
What do you mean there was nothing special about him? Prior to his death he was considered in the top5 important people to the maga movement. Stop living in ignorance and look around you.
sanpedropeddler 5 points a year ago
Ok, so now there's gonna be a new top 5 important maga person. And guess what, they're gonna do all the same shit charlie kirk did. None of this is new. These ideologies don't need these specific assholes to spread.
No, I'm sorry. There wasn't anything special about charlie fucking kirk. He was a shithead who spread hate, and now he's a corpse. What is it you think is so special about him? What is his magic gift that no other right wing grifter can replace?
HorreC 6 points a year ago
I wouldnt say he is on the level of hitler (dont get me wrong he was trying). But there is a push and pull on his murder, but I agree I dont know if he hadnt outlived his usefulness and now he will try to be a spark on a tinder box.
isVeryLoud 1 point a year ago
You can also be happy he died without being happy he was killed.
Vigilantism isn't really desirable, and I personally would rather he rot in a cell than die painlessly, but a dead Kirk can do no more harm.
zalgotext 1 point a year ago
Nah fuck right off with that shit. For the last year the rest of the world has been telling us to do violent revolution, asking us "when are y'all gonna exercise your precious 2A rights"? Now that someone has killed one of the Nazis, you're gonna say we're the bloodthirsty ones?
Fuck.
You.
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He was no Hitler. He was just Joseph Göbbels. The Hitler of the regime is still alive.
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