Lemmy.world is now the #1 lemmy instance with 37k users!

3 years ago by MicroWave to c/fediverse

Good news: lemmy.world has overtaken lemmy.ml and now holds the top spot as the #1 non-bot lemmy instance.

Bad news: there's been an explosion of bot farm instances in the past 48 hours.

Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

wilberfan 36 points 3 years ago

It's not a competition tho, right?

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Nepenthe 18 points 3 years ago

Yeah, it's expected to take pride in something like that only because it's been us vs them for almost as long as the internet has been around. Now we can all access everything everyone else can access (hi from kbin!), so there functionally IS no "them."

I've been trying a lot to shift my own mindset because not only is it just....making another reddit situation if we put all of our eggs in one basket, being competitive about someone else's instance is literally the same as being mad at someone because their phone uses a different area code. You might get a general idea about them if they have one that's well known, but culture is the only difference between any of us. And with federation, even that may not stand the test of time.

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HamSwagwich 4 points 3 years ago

I don't know if it's temporary, but you can't post from Lemmy.world to Kbin, or even see any federated content from KBin. Also, anything I post from KBin doesn't show up on Lemmy.world.

Also, if you go to Lemmy.world and view this thread, there's 174 comments and counting. They aren't showing up here. Something is wrong with Lemmy.world federation.

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CH3DD4R_G0BL1N 4 points 3 years ago

Your specific communities might not have established the pipeline yet. But the federation between world and kbin is open. I can see posts and comments for my content on both sides, even at the time of your post.

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Nepenthe 3 points 3 years ago

I did think it was oddly slow for a headline like this, but I mostly likened it to posts getting any attention on the fediverse being like roulette still. Has to be temporary, I know it's been spotty for at least a few days. Is sad for the time being, though :(

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HamSwagwich 3 points 3 years ago

I've been investigating this more. It seems to be a problem with Kbin.social... I can view anything on lemmy instances from Kbin, but I can't view anything on Kbin from lemmy instances. I can't search my own name, I can't search Kbin.social communities from Lemmy (tried lemmy.world and beehaw.org) ... so I don't know what to do. This problem basically kills kbin.social for me if it won't federate properly.

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MicroWave 8 points 3 years ago

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lanolinoil 6 points 3 years ago

competition for the sucker who foots the bill for this fediverse

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LUHG_HANI 2 points 3 years ago

True but lemmy.world is being donted to pretty well. He runs a mastodon instance also.

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lanolinoil 1 point 3 years ago

It was tongue in cheek but seems like a weakness in the federation model unless I miss something.

I look forward to the Lemmy wars. I hope we get a good 5 years before the opportunists figure it out and start exploiting the 'power' that will come with who can federate with you.

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LUHG_HANI 2 points 3 years ago

That's a good point. Guess we'll have reputation for instances at some point. A chart showing all the defederations.

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kratoz29 4 points 3 years ago

It is, what did we win?

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jerrimu 0 points 3 years ago

Is anything not a competition?

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gsa32 27 points 3 years ago

Congrats lemmy.world. Loving this lemmy instance.

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mazkarth 12 points 3 years ago

What's the difference in instances? They all share the same communities right?

PS, brand new. Migrated from Reddit

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sudneo 11 points 3 years ago

They can contribute to the same communities, but communities live on specific instances.

The main difference between instances is the moderation policy and who runs it really, but nobody is generally missing out anything depending on the instance they choose.

There is one exception to the above, which is when instances defederate each other. Imagine that instance A is full of content that is not accepted on B and C, B and C can defederate A to stop "talking to it". Currently beehaw has defederated Lemmy.world because of the amount of users and moderation capabilities, for example.

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mazkarth 5 points 3 years ago

So would "communityA" on beehaw have different content to "CommunityA" on Lemmy.world due to the defederation/(block)

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kring 8 points 3 years ago

So would “communityA” on beehaw have different content to “CommunityA” on Lemmy.world due to the defederation/(block)

Even with federation, communityA@beehaw.org would be a completely different community from CommunityA@lemmy.world. (like email: mazkarth@gmail.com is a completely different account to mazkarth@hotmail.com)

What federation does for you is that you, on lemmy.world, can access them both with a single login. (email: you can write a mail to mazkarth@hotmail.com from within your gmail webmail)

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PropaGandalf 7 points 3 years ago

jokes on them, they can't even see communities on lemmy.world however we can still see their posts

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Akuma 16 points 3 years ago

Joined today, not a bot, I pinky 101000110001110. Honestly, so far this place feels intuitive and full of content.

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zephyr 3 points 3 years ago

Totally not a bot

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ilickfrogs 2 points 3 years ago

Sounds like something a bit would say...

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adj16 1 point 3 years ago

!totallynotrobots

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herrwoland 12 points 3 years ago

So any guesses how many of these are real users?

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sheridan 24 points 3 years ago

I think I’m real, probably.

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kratoz29 5 points 3 years ago

When a random user gives you existential crisis.

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kadu 5 points 3 years ago

Or... are you?

dum dummm

Hey, Vsauce, Michael here

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WhiteOakBayou 8 points 3 years ago

I might be a bot. I spent the day scraping the web for content and posting it here. That seems bot like.

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subtext 8 points 3 years ago

Ten.

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randomaccess2112 5 points 3 years ago

I've been working all day on content, so I'm definitely real.

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iAmTheTot 5 points 3 years ago

Everyone on Lemmy is a bot except you.

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seacocker 5 points 3 years ago

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koraro 4 points 3 years ago

There are dozens of us... DOZENS!

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evil_opossum 4 points 3 years ago

I want to believe that I'm real!

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LemmyKnow 4 points 3 years ago

I might be real. Not too sure actually, I could be engaging in robotic activities 🤖

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CynAq 10 points 3 years ago

As a kbinaut, I'm proud of you people! I almost feel we're connected somehow, like, everything is connected...

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adj16 8 points 3 years ago

Guys help I think I might be a bot

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lanolinoil 9 points 3 years ago

As an AI language model, I agree.

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RedditExodus 6 points 3 years ago

Where does kbin land on this list? When I signed up for kbin it appeared it was the most popular or at least close to the top. I'm surprised to see it's not on this list.

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beanz 6 points 3 years ago

It's not on this list because it's not a lemmy instance, it is just linked with lemmy via the fediverse. There's a separate list for kbin instances here: https://kbin.fediverse.observer/list

Nearly 40k users on kbin.social

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RedditExodus 1 point 3 years ago

Are Lemmy and Kbin two different pieces of software that do mostly the same thing? Kind of how you can open a PDF file with Acrobat or any number of other PDF viewers?

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gila 1 point 3 years ago

Kind of, they are different aggregators for content on the fediverse. There are others too like Mastodon for microblogging like Twitter, or Diaspora for social media like Facebook. For all of these, the actual posts are created using the ActivityPub protocol, so they are interoperable. Lemmy and Kbin are just more similar than the other ActivityPub apps

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MiddleWeigh 6 points 3 years ago

Look ma, I made it.

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theblueredditrefugee 5 points 3 years ago

Who wants to bet the bot farms are run by Reddit? Haha! Regardless, degenerating from them is easy or so I hear (I don't envy the admins having to defederate from bot farms every 20 minutes though!)

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V699 5 points 3 years ago

I'm curious what about that instance made it so popular? Isn't it just another Lemmy codebase? Intuitively I would have thought lemmy.ml would have grown but I'm not super familiar with lemmy land

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NettoHikari 5 points 3 years ago

And it's also one of the instances that cause the "Subscribe Pending" issue, alongside with lemmy.ml. :/

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MicroWave 3 points 3 years ago

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jerrimu 5 points 3 years ago

Congrats lemmy world, we did it!

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