Looks like r/Lemmy was banned

9 months ago by MelonYellow to c/reddit

Don’t really frequent it all that much. Not sure when this happened

BC_viper 129 points 9 months ago

Fuck reddit

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Skavau 96 points 9 months ago

Interesting. I didn't know it was active really. People tend to use r/fediverse or r/redditalternatives.

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MelonYellow 50 points 9 months ago

Yeah it is interesting. Hopefully it was just due to mod inactivity. At least those other subs are up.

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Gullible 48 points 9 months ago

It wasn’t, the ban message mentions Reddit guidelines. That means there were mods and they were considered active (account/mod activity within the last 6 months)

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irelephant 7 points 9 months ago

It was pretty active.

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Tollana1234567 7 points 9 months ago

probably, maybe people are getting banned, censored so often they are probably looking at alternatives of reddit on reddit.

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DreamAccountant 88 points 9 months ago

Lemmy happens to be the most free social network at the moment, which is enough to raise the ire of every other billionaire owned fascist social network.

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Prathas 17 points 9 months ago

I await the week of dreadful news when they start using their immense wealth to take down instances via DDoS attacks, one by one...

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fossilesque 29 points 9 months ago

And we will rise like the fungus we are!

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DarrinBrunner 14 points 9 months ago

There's dull Gus, and fun Gus. Together they are the fun guys.

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yoyoyopo5 12 points 9 months ago

Cut off one head, three more rise in its place…

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Prathas 5 points 9 months ago

I don't know; I have neither the interest nor time to run one, and I have seen at least one go down recently (Lemmy.one) partly because of how complicated the whole system actually is. Individual enthusiasts may not have the resources to keep up against the long-term might of Meta, Reddit, etc. if they develop dedicated attack teams.

Hope springs eternal, though.

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burntbacon 9 points 9 months ago

I think lemmy.today has been getting hit by bots. I remember someone mentioning the attack increasing over time.

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1984 8 points 9 months ago

Yeah its a bit slower sometimes during the attacks but seems to stay up. Admin posted they blocked some chinese ip ranges due to massive bot crawlings so maybe someone got upset. :)

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Aussiemandeus 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah i should look into hosting my own just in case but I'm not tech savvy enough and don't have the time to learn at the moment.

Still to busy trying to not go to jail from running my own company and never being sure if I'm doing tax stuff right

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EndlessNightmare 58 points 9 months ago

They don't want people jumping ship. How else are the billionaires supposed to control the narrative.

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Tollana1234567 21 points 9 months ago

50+% of the users are bots on reddit anyways.

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douglasg14b 4 points 9 months ago

Any only ~1% actually post.

Sooooo 0.5% are bots?

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NotSteve_ 5 points 9 months ago

A better way of phrasing it would be that 50% of content and conversation is bot generated.

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Madzielle 0 points 9 months ago

Why are you sucking reddits dick so hard?

Any amount of bots posing as humans is not cool

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douglasg14b 1 point 9 months ago

Im not, and you can take your Reddit flavored conversation back there with you please!

Where instead of actually engaging in a topic, you instead resort to personal attacks, and then followup with something that doesn't even address the original comment to begin with.

Begone with that bullshit.

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crumbguzzler5000 45 points 9 months ago

Ive been using Lemmy on a number of instances for over a year and honestly, Reddit should be scared.

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douglasg14b 25 points 9 months ago

I love Lemmy, if we want it to survive and thrive we also need to be realistic with ourselves.

Should Reddit be scared? No, no they shouldn't, laughably.

We're talking about 0.01% of the active user base. Lemmy has ~ 40-50k mau, if we're being incredibly conservative, Reddit has ~400 million MAU . Reddit gains about an entire Lemmy worth of new users, daily.

It's a humbling number.


"Well it's all bots" you say. Well.... Given that ~ 1% of reddit users actually post, it would seem safe to assume that non-content posting users would not be bots. Which doesn't really change the numbers much here.

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rayquetzalcoatl 5 points 9 months ago

Why would it be safe to assume non-content posting users would not be bots?

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douglasg14b 7 points 9 months ago

What profit incentive is there for bots that don't interact? (There are edge cases, scrapers and such, but that's a minute amount of traffic for large services)

Bots in this context are a tool for manipulating opinions and facts for political gain, marketing, personal benefit, or some other social or economic benefit.

They cost money to operate and maintain, and generally need a clear benefit to be used at scale.


That said, bots have only gotten complex in their language capabilities over the last couple years.

My point still stands regardless, use pre -LLM numbers if you want, it doesn't necessarily change the picture all that much.

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rayquetzalcoatl 6 points 9 months ago

I would argue that most web traffic is bots. Scrapers are everywhere, all the time, constantly. The uptick of LLM search tools is bringing ever more of them online, too.

Whether that kind of web traffic has an account on Reddit, probably not. But Reddit bots surely could upvote/downvote/report to influence things rather than just posting?

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ProdigalFrog 3 points 9 months ago

What profit incentive is there for bots that don’t interact?

I always figured they trigger ad views, which financially benefit Reddit itself.

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luciferofastora 3 points 9 months ago

Vote manipulation?

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Fertile_Friday 7 points 9 months ago

Spoken like a true enthusiast πŸ«‚ 🀝

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hexagonwin 43 points 9 months ago

fuck u/spez

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roserose56 0 points 9 months ago

Who cares about spez?

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baseball2020 31 points 9 months ago

All of the subs I previously visited are being taken over by marketing campaigns and I find it is getting increasingly worse over time. They are slowly pushing out all the real users that generated the value of the site. The end game has to be just bots posting to bots.

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dax 13 points 9 months ago

My theory: they're just trying to push stock price for the short term as much as possible (by looking good on paper). Then they can cash out and let others figure out what to do with the dumpster fire in the long term.

They've made so many short-sighted decisions with Reddit lately, burning all good will of the community in the process, I can't really explain it another way.

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frog_brawler 6 points 9 months ago
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Invertedouroboros 3 points 9 months ago

I only "disagree" in the sense that I don't think they're thinking that far ahead.

I think a lot of what's driving a lot of the more stupid capitalist behavior lately is an emphasis on stock price above all else. Don't get me wrong, capitalism never had a fantastic incentive structure, but right now I think that the base instinct is to do whatever you can to bump that stock price. Even if that means laying off your workforce and ripping the copper out of the walls.

It comes out to the same place at the end of the day. Eventually you'll simply do too much damage to the company and you certainly don't want to be the one left holding the bag. But... I genuinely feel like noone's thinking beyond the current quarter. It's like capitalism's in a panic mode where "the apocalypse is happening tomorrow so you might as well cash in whatever you've got" and has been for years.

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Tollana1234567 4 points 9 months ago

im not surprised, the bots often go for unmoderated subs, because they wont be detected or shadowbanned as fast if they were in a normal modded sub. im in a forum where they often target subs with low moderation to pedal thier OF, or "business". Also because subs are very hard to obtain by a user if it becomes unmoderated.

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dil 3 points 9 months ago

Yep so when ppl google the reddit result as theyve gotten used to they just see ads disguised as comments, it's been an issue but gettin worse

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NOT_RICK 21 points 9 months ago

Is there a piefed sub?

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rimu 16 points 9 months ago

Yes but it's empty. I made it just so someone else couldn't.

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Die4Ever 2 points 9 months ago

I crossposted the v1.2 release there so it wouldn't be empty, just in case anyone stumbles on it

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rimu 2 points 9 months ago

Thanks, I was thinking that'd be a good use of it!

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fluffykittycat 20 points 9 months ago

They're scared of us

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Redex68 0 points 9 months ago

Ngl this is like YouTube is scared of Vimeo, they don't care at all. Lemmy is such a laughably small percentage of their user base that they probably couldn't care less.

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roserose56 16 points 9 months ago

Why even bother? Let them fucking die in Reddit. They choosed it, not us!
"But, but, but Reddit has communities that we don't have here" make one and promote it.

Ps: talking about Reddit when we said we gonna abandon it, does the opposite.

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oddlyqueer 11 points 9 months ago

How many people here learned about Lemmy through Reddit? I did. Can't use Lemmy if you don't even know it's an option.

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figjam 4 points 9 months ago

talking about Reddit when we said we gonna abandon it, does the opposite.

Yeah, but I still like watching the shitshow.

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HerNameIsTiffaney 1 point 8 months ago
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nandeEbisu 4 points 9 months ago

Its way better than it used to be. I don't know if that's just because there's less drama happening right now regarding reddit, but I didn't get a flooded front page when reddit's chatbot citations started plummeting which is a huge improvement over the past.

https://seekingalpha.com/...

I don't think we should never talk about reddit, but I think it gets really annoying when people start clickbait spamming with Reddit headlines which hasn't happened in a while.

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Cybersteel 1 point 9 months ago

It's because the election season is long over already.

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HerNameIsTiffaney 1 point 8 months ago
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NigelFrobisher 15 points 9 months ago

We have Lemmy at home…

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Die4Ever 15 points 9 months ago path: 0 19782874, hotness: undefined, score: 15, children: 1
manuallybreathing 5 points 9 months ago

[–]vernes1978 4 points 4 hours ago

This is reddit.
Nobody has to explain anything here.

[–]eccsoheccsseven 1 point 4 hours ago

It's basically Stalinism

I'm glad they cleared that up, if people believe this shit, and the spooky stalin stories why are they still using reddit? Won't stalin find out? I hear he's got spys everywhere, maybe even in this thread!

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moseschrute 11 points 9 months ago path: 0 19783911, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 2
roserose56 -15 points 9 months ago

I like how you guys promote Reddit! Bravo!

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SoftestSapphic -6 points 9 months ago

Lmao block this idiot

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candyman337 10 points 9 months ago

I mean occums Occam's Razor, are we sure the mod(s) didn't delete their accounts leaving the community unmoderated or something?

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ren 18 points 9 months ago

occums razor

Get your mind out of the gutter.

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And009 4 points 9 months ago

*Occam's Razor

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Die4Ever 4 points 9 months ago

are we sure the mod(s) didn’t delete their accounts leaving the community unmoderated or something?

does that result in this error message?

This community has been banned for violating the Reddit rules.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Lemmy

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candyman337 3 points 9 months ago

No

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Sunshine 6 points 9 months ago

Spez moment.

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vala 4 points 9 months ago

Have they given any explanation/justification?

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Die4Ever 4 points 9 months ago

This community has been banned for violating the Reddit rules.

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