If a person with multiple personalities threatens suicide, is it considered a hostage situation?

8 months ago by Rhoeri to c/showerthoughts

AnarchoEngineer 25 points 8 months ago

This is a good shower thought. Probably a good idea to call a psychiatrist rather than a cop tho

Also I want to mention that “multiple personality disorder” is now called Dissociative Identity Disorder and there’s no real consensus that truly having multiple separate identities in the same brain is even possible.

Lost time (gaps in memory) and significant changes in personality over time are a thing, but the existence of separate identities seems most likely to be societal response, as in people just acting out the fantasy that they have different identities.

Acting like you have multiple personalities, especially using that kind of fantasy to deal with trauma or life, is still a real mental illness. It’s just not really “multiple personalities” as portrayed in media or pop culture

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GraveyardOrbit 17 points 8 months ago

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AnarchoEngineer 6 points 8 months ago

While I’m a big fan of philosophical pragmatism, I don’t think it applies here because if the identities are truly separate, it seems less likely you’d be able to treat this kind of mental illness.

It’s much easier to teach people better coping methods than it would be to go about trying to reunify identities since… well where would you even start?

As a testable hypothesis, truly separate personalities would not share all memories but a person presenting them as facades wouldn’t be able to keep the information separate perfectly. Chances are you would be able to design an experiment to trip them up.

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Delta_V 5 points 8 months ago

Its been done - link goes to a PDF of the study:

Patients with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) frequently report episodes of interidentity amnesia, that is amnesia for events experienced by other identities. The goal of the present experiment was to test the implicit transfer of trauma-related information between identities in DID. We hypothesized that whereas declarative information may transfer from one identity to another, the emotional connotation of the memory may be dissociated, especially in the case of negative, trauma-related emotional valence. An evaluative conditioning procedure was combined with an affective priming procedure, both performed by different identities. In the evaluative conditioning procedure, previously neutral stimuli come to refer to a negative or positive connotation. The affective priming procedure was used to test the transfer of this acquired valence to an identity reporting interidentity amnesia. Results indicated activation of stimulus valence in the affective priming task, that is transfer of emotional material between identities. r 2004 Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved.

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thezeesystem 13 points 8 months ago

It's called dissociate identity disorder and as someone who has it, it would depend if your talking metaphorically, or society, as society would could consider one body means it would be a suicide, however metaphysical and philosophy it would would depend on the system and how they are.

Just know, most people with d.i.d. are not "making people up" and identities in there systems are very real.

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DeathByBigSad 10 points 8 months ago

Me trying to convince myself to pls not kms

Frantically calls a swat team

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sramder 4 points 8 months ago

If one of the personalities is a hostage negotiator you got yourself a —fuckme… that terrible director with a collection of goth girls at his gate — M. Night Shyamalan movie 🍿

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Rhoeri 2 points 8 months ago

I’d watch the shit out of that!

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sramder 1 point 8 months ago

I’d watch it ironically… is it to soon to watch a Nazi fighting an alien?

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Tedesche 4 points 8 months ago

No. Alternate identities in people with DID (dissociative identity disorder) are not literally other people; they're different identity complexes within the same person. Such a person would need a good therapist/psychiatrist, not a hostage negotiator.

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db2 3 points 8 months ago

Autoserialkiller?

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papalonian 2 points 8 months ago

What if the aggressor misses, and stabs the wrong one?

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AmidFuror 0 points 8 months ago

I think this is called "punching down" and is no longer an acceptable form of humor.

Although, to be fair, they do actually outnumber us in a 1v1 situation.

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Rhoeri 0 points 8 months ago

I think you need to lighten up. It’s not punching anywhere.

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AmidFuror 2 points 8 months ago

I can't tell if the downvotes are against my punching down statement or my follow-up joke about being outnumbered.

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ArgumentativeMonotheist 0 points 8 months ago

Good post!

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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Rules

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No politics
- If your topic is in a grey area, please phrase it to emphasize the fascinating aspects, not the dramatic aspects. You can do this by avoiding overly politicized terms such as "capitalism" and "communism". If you must make comparisons, you can say something is different without saying something is better/worse.
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