Trump says US has "captured" Venezuelan President Maduro and his wife in "large scale strike"

6 months ago by return2ozma to c/news

The US President says Maduro has been "flown out of the country", as Venezuela declares a national emergency.
HurlingDurling 124 points 6 months ago

This sets an alarming precedent where a sitting us president can kidnap the acting head of another country (elected or not) which is an act of war, without the us being at war or having authorization from congress.

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lennee 80 points 6 months ago

see the logic is only the US can, anybody else cant even arrest netanyahu when he flies over their airspace cuz for some reason that would also be an act of war towards the US

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Ooops 17 points 6 months ago

You seem to not understand the term precedent. Neither is that a new thing to do for the US nor is it actually requiring congress authorisation. They gave up that power long ago and now don't need to autorise anything for up to 90 days.

Also the US has not declared war once since WW2... They actually set the precedent for "military operations" and -again- not recently either.

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pyrinix 7 points 6 months ago
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PoisonTheWell 12 points 6 months ago

Technically no. Congress passed the AUMF which let the President go after anyone they deemed complicit in 9/11. It did not declare war against specific nations iirc.

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pyrinix 7 points 6 months ago
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thallamabond 9 points 6 months ago path: 0 21342027 21342709 21343746 21346981, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 0
te_abstract_art 83 points 6 months ago

I already hate 2026

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pyrinix 17 points 6 months ago
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YashaB 14 points 6 months ago

It's going to be worse than 2025..

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Montagge 4 points 6 months ago

Americans did nothing and things got worse. Who could have foreseen this?

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prole 3 points 6 months ago

So alcoholism it is.

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lemmydividebyzero 46 points 6 months ago

Guys, it's fine. Remember? Trump has the FIFA peace price.

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Ooops 17 points 6 months ago

Where's the problem? No winner of the FIFA peace price has started less and ended more wars than Trump. šŸ˜‰

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cheesybuddha 2 points 6 months ago

Nor has any winner raped more kids than Trump

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cheesybuddha 6 points 6 months ago

I'm starting to thing the Fifa Peace Prize may not actually mean very much...

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beatnixxx 41 points 6 months ago

so you're telling me the "peace president" started another war? Unpossible. /s

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Sgt_choke_n_stroke 27 points 6 months ago

He's gonna go to war in Venezuela to stop people from talking about him in the epstein files

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itisileclerk 14 points 6 months ago

No, he did it for money. USA is a agressor.

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Jumbie 5 points 6 months ago

Both.

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dustyData 2 points 6 months ago

I like that line of thinking as much as the next guy, but it strikes me as wildly misguided that the US politics has reduced to that. Like, I get the symbolic aspects of the Epstein's files for politics, but still think it is mindless engagement.

An indisputably genuine video of Trump raping a literal toddler could be released tomorrow and nothing would change. Their support base and the gears of power are already too deeply entwined to his personality. No amount of public rage or national indignation changes governments.

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butwhyishischinabook 16 points 6 months ago

Okay now do Putin. I'll wait....

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Typotyper 12 points 6 months ago

Oh no. Ukraine attacked his house and that crossed a serious line.

There are rules of decency in this world

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Jumbie 5 points 6 months ago

ā€œAttacked.ā€

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cheesybuddha 1 point 6 months ago

And they didn't even do that most likely. And Russia is making such a big stink about it, meanwhile Dumbtits is sending Seal Team Six to break into a world leaders house and abduct his family.

I'm so sick of morons being in charge. I'm sick of the people in charge thinking that we are all morons and can't see what's obvious. I'm also sick of pedophiles not getting imprisoned or shot.

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DrDickHandler 10 points 6 months ago

They will kidnap Zelensky before Putin.

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YashaB 13 points 6 months ago

Maduro is just as bad as Trump or Putin. Still it sets a very bad precedent when the US starts acting like Russia. Who will be next?

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TheDemonBuer 18 points 6 months ago

It doesn't matter how bad Maduro is, this is wrong and illegal. Period.

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frongt 2 points 6 months ago

Idk I think if he was literally Hitler or worse it could be justified.

But he wasn't and isn't, so it's for sure wrong and unjustified.

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dustyData 1 point 6 months ago

I could argue that he is just as horrible as Hitler but just to a smaller set of people and that it is justified. But I also bet that wouldn't change your mind. That's the problem with crimes against humanity, suffering can't be quantified. And it never would feel justified until it happens to you.

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Heikki2 15 points 6 months ago

Just follow the unexploited oil reserves

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givesomefucks 2 points 6 months ago

Not just oil, pretty sure I heard the other day Canada just found the largest lithium reserve on the planet...

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timmy_dean_sausage 1 point 6 months ago

They'll be an uneasy ally for the next 20 to 30 years while we burn through the oil we're stealing from Venezuela. When the cost of mining/ importing lithium becomes more expensive than stealing it from Canada, we'll start bombing them. Hopefully the empire falls before that happens.

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givesomefucks 0 points 6 months ago

Hopefully the empire falls before that happens.

If you knew what that meant and the damage (long and short term) it would cause for the entire planet you wouldn't be saying that.

The Balkinazition of America would lead to WW3, except people probably wouldn't live that long to call it that.

Just look at the shit show govenors we have in the states with our ICBM sites.

You think the dude that body slammed a reporter during his campaign is above pointing the nukes in his state at his neighbor and demanding they surrender terrorist?

You think Texas won't try to take over Mexico with what they have of the remaining US military?

You think Russia wouldn't immediately invade Alaska?

You think we'll be able to keep food in stores and Americans will be able to afford enough to live?

America collapsing wouldn't be good for anyone.

If half your cabin burns down during winter 100s of miles from the nearest human, you don't burn the rest down. You patch it up as best you can until you either rebuild it or have a new one to move into. That's what we need to do when it's beyond saving, try to make it last long enough that we have something to pivot to besides "Mad Max 15: this time with more guns!"

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cheesybuddha 3 points 6 months ago

Mexico, according to Trump.

I'm skeptical though, since Mexico doesn't famously have huge reserves of oil. Still, he does really hate brown people, so that might be enough.

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sturmblast 2 points 6 months ago

It's not like we this is the USAs first rodeo

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DrDickHandler 2 points 6 months ago

Canada, Mexico.

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Socialism_Everyday -1 points 6 months ago

What country did Maduro invade to be as bad as Putin or Trump?

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YashaB 1 point 6 months ago

Invading a country isn't the only factor to determine how bad a dictator is.

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Socialism_Everyday -3 points 6 months ago

No, the main factor is how strong your state propaganda is against him.

Long live Maduro and the Bolivarian revolution, death to America

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WanderWisley 11 points 6 months ago

All eyes on Taiwan next…

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Lembot_0006 11 points 6 months ago

Looks like the USA managed to buy the local army or something. Well, it went unexpectedly smoothly. Maduro really didn't look like the elected president. Not sure if USA puppet would be better though...

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bdonvr 19 points 6 months ago

Not sure if USA puppet would be better though...

Depends on how much money you have invested in American oil companies

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iopq 8 points 6 months ago

He wasn't elected, he just denied the results of the election

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Keilik 11 points 6 months ago

That’s usually the kind of thing that gets you on trumps good side though

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Envy 4 points 6 months ago
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fistac0rpse 5 points 6 months ago

I read that the US was offering a $50 million bounty for anyone who provided info that led to his arrest

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DeICEAmerica 10 points 6 months ago
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halfeatenpotato 17 points 6 months ago

Respectfully, I think you mean "should be". Nothing has happened to make me believe that any of these fuckers will be held accountable for their bullshit.

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givesomefucks 3 points 6 months ago

Nothing has happened to make me believe that any of these fuckers will be held accountable for their bullshit.

Because we had no option than Biden, one of the most popular Dem Senators of all time (among Republican senators....)

Dem politicians didnt like Biden, Dem voters didn't like Biden....

But the donors Hillary handed the DNC too really liked Biden, so he was the only other option we got.

A shit ton of people knew Biden would never do what was needed, and he didn't.

That doesn't mean the next Dem president won't, just that we need to understand that not everyone with a D next to their name is the same. We have to pick a good one, not just to win, but to actually fix shit so we can hold onto our gains.

We vote for an empty suit the donors want, that's all we're gonna get.

So no matter what happens between now and then, nothing is more important than voting in Dem primaries

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DrDickHandler 12 points 6 months ago

That's cute. They won't.

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IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds 1 point 6 months ago

should, but won't.

trump can rape a 13 girl on live TV, throw the resulting a baby in the lake in life TV, and not only would his base still support him. but he legally committed no crimes, because the US is a dictatorship and the every "official" act a US president does, is legal.

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DeICEAmerica 2 points 6 months ago
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IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds 1 point 6 months ago

gotta go sharpen my pitchfork

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NarrativeBear 8 points 6 months ago

1000054116

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JigglySackles 2 points 6 months ago

Fucking WHY?! Just leave people the fuck alone!

USA has completed it's transition to Russia two nuclear boogaloo

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cheesybuddha 1 point 6 months ago

Compared to other actions the US has taken this is a very small scale strike.

The dude just has to lie. It must be a compulsion at this point.

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Envy 0 points 6 months ago
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