Sounds about right

9 months ago by Stamets to c/adhd

joker54 74 points 9 months ago

Dude. I have a friend JUST like this.

They always think they are bugging me by merely sending me messages - regardless of how often I tell them that's what friends do (chat, that is).

Doesn't stop them from apologizing....

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Stamets 50 points 9 months ago

Stamets narrows his eyes

Fuck you, I'm telling on you. I don't need to be called out like this. You're my friend, how dare you attack me like this. No apologies. Suffer.

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AngryishHumanoid 17 points 9 months ago

Maybe they don't have a developmental disorder, maybe they're just Canadian.

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joker54 12 points 9 months ago

Why not both?

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Stamets 3 points 9 months ago

I will kill you

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joker54 2 points 9 months ago

Reported!

spoiler

/s

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guy 5 points 9 months ago

I hate inconveniencing my friends by talking to them!

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WorldsDumbestMan 2 points 9 months ago

Exactly the kind of friends you don't need: ones that hate to hear you talk.

They can fuck right off.

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prole 47 points 9 months ago

This is why I was convinced up until the last few years that I didn't have it. I'm certainly not fucking hyperactive, so how could I have ADHD? is what I used to think.

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jubilationtcornpone 27 points 9 months ago

A lot of people used to still think this.

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otter 4 points 9 months ago

And, let us be clear: they judge based on this bullshit view alone. 🖕🏼

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EtherWhack 14 points 9 months ago

Think of the 'hyperactivity' as more related to your thoughts. In that everyone has a stream of thoughts going, ours is just overactive. And it's only that some people do actually physically express the hyperactivity.

(Still not the most succinct word for it though)

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WorldsDumbestMan 2 points 9 months ago

I can't sit still during break, I can't hold a conversation where the person does not get to the point within 3 seconds, because I can't be holding my breath for 3 seconds.

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missphant 11 points 9 months ago

I like to think of it as the "hyperactive" part being my brain.

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SleeplessCityLights 22 points 9 months ago

For people trying to get a diagnosis, mainly mention the internal and social aspect of your disorder not the obvious stuff. Doctors can see highly visible symptoms without you saying. The only reason I have one is because I opened with "the social issues from ADHD are killing me..." nobody knows how to complain about those without actually having the disorder.

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snek_boi 18 points 9 months ago

I understand that hyperactivity and attention deficit does not take into account the experience of fear of losing friends. In fact, I agree with this post in an unexpected way: I think the DSM is a joke, especially when the DSM authors themselves say it should not be used for diagnoses and treatments. Especially when they say that the theoretical bases for the DSM, the neo-Krapelian model, has not found the evidence it needs to justify itself (i.e. reliable biomarkers in the brain).

But I think it’s fair to evaluate the post. The goal is to evaluate its accuracy, the truth behind it.

If we do it, my mind immediately goes to the literature on the effects of attention. Attention training has all sorts of benefits. You see it in mindfulness training. You see it in focusing-on-the-breath training. You see it even in focusing-on-your-feet training.

Attention is not trivial. It is quite literally your experience of your existence, of your life. It determines what you notice and what you don’t. It determines what you do and what you don’t.

Heck, even I have struggled with attention. I know what it is to lack it and to train it.

All of this makes me think that, yeah, maybe ADHD is not called “my-friends-might-hate-me-and-I’m-terrified-of-that disorder”, but the attention part is accurate. Attention matters profoundly.

More broadly, I think it’s easy to dismiss psychology. Yes, it is a fraught science. Yes, it carries the baggage of Freudian and psycho-analytic bullshit, as well as neo-Krapelian bullshit. However, not all psychology is unscientific. And not all psychology is inaccurate.

Even with these problems, psychology has noticed something. It has noticed that there’s a cluster of symptoms. And it turns out that there’s a defining feature of this cluster of symptoms: a lack of attention (and hyperactivity).

In calling this cluster of symptoms this way, psychology made a choice. It chose to emphasize the defining feature. It did not choose to describe its symptoms or its effects. And I don’t think that is a problem.

It’s similar to how cancer is not called “you-will-get-scared-shitless-and-lose-your-hair disease”.

I think the OP has a stick-it-to-the-man sentiment. And I agree that there’s plenty of space for that in psychology. But I really don’t see that in the naming of ADHD. I would much rather sticking it to Freudian bullshit and the bases of the DSM.

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Skullgrid 7 points 9 months ago

I think the DSM is a joke, especially when the DSM authors themselves say it should not be used for diagnoses and treatments.

This book should not be used for diagnoses
Look at title
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual

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snek_boi 6 points 9 months ago path: 0 21666793 21666823 21667681, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 1
Skullgrid 4 points 9 months ago

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm making fun of the situation the DSM V finds itself in

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umfk 10 points 9 months ago

The hyperactivity describes what goes on in afflicted people's heads, not (necessarily) that they can't sit still.

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AngryishHumanoid 9 points 9 months ago

Because hyperactivity is a well documented symptom associated with the neurodevelopmental disorder?

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nanoswarm9k 8 points 9 months ago

Why is that symptom more well documented than the others listed in the meme?

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AngryishHumanoid 8 points 9 months ago

I didn't say it was? Some quick research indicates that the origins of the disease came out of observations of younger children, in which hyperactivity was a clear indicator. As time went on it was realized that other observable symptoms existed in older populations. A link between the symptoms was realized and it was determined they were in fact symptoms of the same disorder. Hence: ADHD. It turns out when doctors came up with the name it was based on the realities of the disorder and not as a slight to the people diagnosed with it.

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peoplebeproblems 6 points 9 months ago

The hyperactivity looks so different between people. I was the quiet kid in class, but I wasn't there.

I was off in Pokemon/digimon land for most of elementary school. And lucky that I was smart and I could do tests in class by figuring them out on the fly.

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Endymion_Mallorn 6 points 9 months ago

Yes, because when we deal with psychological issues, most people focus on treating the symptoms.

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Guillermosaenz 5 points 9 months ago

That framing actually explains a lot more than the name ever did

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474D 5 points 9 months ago

Who is "they" in this context?

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magikmw 13 points 9 months ago

Neuronormative psuchiastrists.

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SippyCup 10 points 9 months ago

I refuse to call it normal.

They're neuromild. Mayonnaise brains.

We spicy.

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nanoswarm9k 8 points 9 months ago

Mayo has a flavor and a great protein to fat ratio -- esp for overclocked brain activity. How about agar? Or shake base.

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magikmw 1 point 9 months ago

Neurospicy is what I call myself not gonna ngl.

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lemmyman 3 points 9 months ago

No all the normies got together in a secret normie meeting and voted on it

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nanoswarm9k 6 points 9 months ago

It's not a secret. People are actively marginalized and pushed out by bullies without scruples.

Remember that time Durkheim had to plow a crowd of people to get WEB Du Bois to the stage because they didn't want to look at Du Bois speaking? Dipshits.

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otter 2 points 9 months ago

The death of a thousand cuts. Every day. 🥲🤷🏼‍♂️

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theuniqueone 2 points 9 months ago

True for most disabilities they center the "ideal norm".

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WorldsDumbestMan 1 point 9 months ago

Idk how I went from genocide all normies, to ok, maybe I will try to build a community and help people. But that is one of the reasons I was where I was.

ADHD Hitler for a time.

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