Piefed monthly user activity has increased by nearly 500 in 3 days.
7 months ago by Skavau to c/fediverse
Just thought I'd note this. Main beneficiary so far seems to be piefed.ca.
It is lol. Reddit is a forum disguised as social media, something which does not require complicated recommendation systems to feel complete. Hence lemmy/piefed feel more usable in my opinion.
Reddit also upped the enshittification but i cant remember why.
That was the big one, but there was something else smaller last year.
I saw it in a post about people getting temp bans for simply stating that EU allies would be right to defend Greenland in case of military action. Might just have been one of several grievances with Reddit at the moment though
its also too easy to get banned. new accounts and old inactive accounts becoming suddenly active are highly likely to get banned.
cant be reddit bans, they have largely laid off the massive bans. although i have heard they upped thier methods of detecting would be ban evasion methods.
A few posts on subreddits, see !fedigrow@lemmy.zip and !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com
The 3 posts I made on reddit promoting the Fediverse and PieFed got over 300,000 views together.
More people getting involved in fedigrow could see much higher numbers, but let's not spam.
As a small comment, !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com is supposed to be the community for promotion outside of the Fediverse, so Reddit and others.
!fedigrow@lemmy.zip is dedicated about community growing.
Maybe the names are confusing and we should switch community growing to a new !communitygrow@piefed.zip or something
Ah thanks for the clarification, I never looked that closely at what exactly they are, there's some overlap
Happy to help, more are coming π
I wonder, would these users still use PieFed if they have seen its codebase? Maybe it can be one day but right now it's 100% not production-grade software. Nonsensical hardcoded bans and blocks everywhere. >1000 lines of Python in a single file. Uses regex to parse HTML. The list goes on...
If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that?
That's what makes it particularly sad. The people who didn't read the code have no idea what they're in for.
What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?
How about this one? 'enoughmuskspam', 'political_weirdos', 'piracy', 'memes' are hardcoded banned. 196 used to be banned to but they removed it from the "bad list".
Also "can be disabled" does not excuse hardcoded filtering. If they're serious they could implement a config system in an hour.
What are they in for? The site seems to work fine from a user perspective.
That is from an auto-federation system for instances to bulk add new comms across instances. Any community can still be manually added. And I think most of those may have been removed now a few weeks ago. I can literally access enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world from piefed.social and all those other terms.
All new admins need to do to change things is to untick boxes.
What are they in for? The site seems to work fine from a user perspective.
Fox News would seem like a perfectly fine source of news if you get all your news from Fox News, wouldn't you agree?
Any community can still be manually added.
And you can still manually get any news you want from other channels, Fox News just won't show them.
(I am not saying PieFed is as bad as Fox News, just trying to make an analogy to show that something that "seems to work fine" can be pretty bad for the users nonetheless)
BTW, !enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world (with the exclamation mark up front) to correctly refer to communities. Without the ! that's an email address.
The version from 10 years ago, yeah. It's here https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit.
There's a modern and production-ready open source alternative. It's called Lemmy. You can find the source here https://github.com/lemmynet/lemmy
Memes is a banned url, huh? Okay, let's test this scientifically. After I make this comment, I'm gonna go to !memes@lemmy.world and see if I get any posts.
Woah, I see lots of posts on !memes@lemmy.world, and some of them have more than a thousand upvotes. I guess there's no hardcoded bans on meme communities. You must have misunderstood the code.
Huh? You just linked a community on lemmy.world. Thatβs a lemmy instance. The person above you is referring to piefed. You donβt understand the code.
Piefed has all the shit code that bans a bunch of stuff. They also delete your comment if it starts with a gif link. And then put your social score down one. They also block you from downvoting if your votes are negative (more downs than up). There so much dumb shit because there are against actual free speech.
See this for proof: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293
I know what the code is for. And I know that your instance manually exempted the block for 'memes' (or perhaps your instance imported the memes community before the block came in place, idk).
Can you view any 'piracy' or 'enoughmuskspam' community on your instance? I can't
http://multiverse.soulism.net/communities?search=piracy&language_id=0
http://multiverse.soulism.net/communities?search=enoughmuskspam&language_id=0
obviously not that "hardcoded" since piefed.zip can access these things just fine
https://piefed.zip/c/enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world
https://piefed.zip/c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
piefed.ca too https://piefed.ca/c/memes@lemmy.world
Maybe it can be one day but right now itβs 100% not production-grade software.
Why should we only use "production-grade software" software on the Fediverse? Isnt the beauty that we can use all kind of software as long as it interacts decently via the relevant protocols?
Also I am already using Lemmy, which is pretty known for its opinionated devs. This does not seem to be anything that would stop, especially when I can actually read the code as its in a language I can atleast understand somewhat
Lemmy, which is pretty known for its opinionated devs
The opinions of the devs have so far (at least as far as I know) not spread into the actual code though.
uses regex to parse HTML
I see we are having fun these places!
Sadly refactoring is frowned upon in a lot of places as it takes away from adding new stuff, especially when necessary to prevent the code from getting worse
Linking so people see it.
Isn't that something possible in any piefed spot not just the instance of the dev?
Yes. So? Piefed.ca is receiving the bump here. Other instances have turned it off.
You know Rimu made a thread in !piefed_meta@piefed.social so you can ask questions or express concerns.
Because it's a piefed feature set.
Based on rimus responses here and elsewhere they do not seem interested in feedback.
Even in their comment linking to a thread saying they welcome it, they were attacking someone providing it
Yeah Iβm reading that in other replies. Still you would put this in configs, for which you could have templates that come with certain defaults populated, rather than hard coding like this.
I'm doing this because I love doing it. Often that means the boring bits like documentation or config or general finesse get left out. I'm trying to paint with broad strokes in the hope that when others see what I'm trying to do they'll join in and fill in the details.
Good
As i asked there, which is the 4chan image blocking as the checks there simply say images from 4chan cause reputation loss.
I know you are amazing at promoting the fediverse but feels odd to see you ignore all the issues people bring up about piefed
Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:
I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.
So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.
https://chat.piefed.social/...
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Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised
- the thorn character filter
- 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
- the "this filter" being configurable
My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing
- multicommunities
- onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
- crossposts comments consolidation
- communities moderation features
- posts and user flairs
- keyword filters
None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.
What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .
That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.
I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.
All the "features missing on Lemmy" could/should be implemented on the client. The fact that developers don't understand that and go on to reimplement a whole part of the stack (instead of joining forces and helping the existing effort) is counterproductive.
Piefed just reminds me too much of sublinks where people simply hated the devs so instead of helping improve the software or even fork it just started fresh on something new.
None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.
I'd argue poor code will cause issues as users increase, both for instance admins and user performance.
Overall the issues brought up keep coming back to piefed bringing in some of the worst parts of reddit to the fediverse, like the reputation system. It's designed how rimu wants people to interact in specific ways. And does not seem to care if it actually works with other non piefed instances.
Congrats!
Piefed has so many issues. Itβs great at adding new features, but itβs so bad at free speech.
See this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293
just like on reddit if you are trolling, issuing propaganda, and ignoring community rules you will get banned surely anywhere else, obviously if your being offensive too.
In my experience reddit administration moderates dishonestly, violating posts not against the rules because of subjects like Israel,. Moderators there are more than you can shake a stick at they run the gamut.
But the administration is quite dishonest, and will become more and more so.
don't forget, being sexually harassed by a mod and then warning people about the mod will get you banned too
Been looking to migrate off .ml,
Why out if curiosity?
Piefed has some neat features unique to it, such as:
- a very nice gallery view for image heavy communities.
- the ability to combine comments from multiple communities under one post, if the same link was posted to all of them. You can see an example of that here (notice how the comments have dividers for each community).
- the ability to create and subscribe to a pre-made list of communities, sorta like a multi-reddit.
Is this new users or users switching from Lemmy ?
Nice to see the growth!
Hopefully everyone had a soft landing spot and can find a home over here in the fediverse.
I'm just waiting for my clients to be able to show a list of my upvoted items like they do for Lemmy.
I've been on the microblogging side of the fediverse for some time (the misskey style forks), but really started to miss forum style discussion. 8 joined Lemmy and realized that a huge portion of comments simply weren't displaying on that instance, so I moved to Piefed and am really happy with it so far. There's a lot of features that I like.
Thanks :)
Thatβs good news
Donating is great, sure, and they're probably more likely to stick around if they paid, but just because someone isn't donating doesn't mean they won't be active in the comments or by making posts. Not to mention they might spread the word to friends, some of whom might donate.
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