how has your strong sense of justice impacted your life?

5 months ago by chosensilence to c/autism

let me start by saying i recently learned of my autism late in life, so i've had no awareness of some of my behaviors as autistic until recently.

it's often said that people with autism have a strong personal sense of right and wrong. neurotypicals may label it as stubborn but i see it as principled. obviously, nts can have an equal sense of right and wrong, but it does appear to be uniquely within autism that it can present as a detriment. for example, i will often sabotage myself if it means i'll be forced to do something i find reprehensible or objectionable, like i'd rather risk homelessness than take a job in health insurance if i was unemployed.

how has this affected you throughout your life?

for me it has been both a benefit and a massive hindrance. over time i have learned ways to recontextualize certain situations and circumstances, but there are areas i am simply unwilling to compromise on.

Goldholz 24 points 5 months ago

I went into politics because of that and am a strong advocate for union and workers rights. And lean up at work when some injustice happens

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chosensilence 5 points 5 months ago

how did you approach that? it feels impossible to get started if you haven't already.

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pedantichedgehog 4 points 5 months ago

If you're talking about running for office - I'm not sure. If you're talking about something smaller-scale, you can find the nearest protest and try to find someone handing out flyers or signing up people for newsletters. That will get you looped into protests, rallies, mailing campaigns, and other actions.

The other place I've encountered groups canvassing is at the local farmer's markets, weirdly enough.

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Goldholz 4 points 5 months ago

Well my goal is atleast becoming member of parliament. Highest goal, chancellor or EU president. I come from poverty and not the political elite, i dont care about the money, only take how much i need for my own living so max 2k€ and the rest will be put in either a fund to build a modern "fuggerei" or straight up donated to variouse causes.

Everyone can join a party and even when you arent active, that money then helps the party. Joining a union should defenetly be on everyones agenda as worker though! Only together we are strong!

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Goldholz 3 points 5 months ago

How i got into politics? I was very into politics with already 11. Joined a party last year with 22 (didnr before because my life needed to be sorted out). I joined VOLT because the greens are to pussy and THE LEFT too naive and russia friendly. I helped in campagning and am a leader of a regional chapter

Or what do you want to know?

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Alvaro 24 points 5 months ago

It made me realize that like 95% of the people around me are terrible people and that I live in a continuous internal conflict between what I know to be right and what I have to accept to be part of society.

It honestly sometimes makes me want to not be alive, but I try not to let it.

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Goldholz 1 point 5 months ago

Dont accept any wrong of society! Call it out! Only threw that change happens!

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Alvaro 4 points 5 months ago

I do, but if I do it too much I alienate myself from society to a point where I greatly suffer

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Goldholz 1 point 5 months ago

I guess i have already bed at the point since my diagnosis and thats why i cant see such "consequences" happening to me. Take care <3

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Mac 19 points 5 months ago

Having a sense of justice and living in this unjust hellhole is a significant stressor and its chronic prevalence has had noticeable effects on my health.

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pedantichedgehog 16 points 5 months ago

It was definitely a factor is me going from "vaguely right-wing because my parents are" to "democrats aren't left enough".

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nondescripthandle 15 points 5 months ago

Having a sense of justice in this world is hell. Having injustice sensitivity as an autist is a whole other level.

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m532 14 points 5 months ago

I became infinitely vengeful against ads, usa, copyright and drm.

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18107 13 points 5 months ago

I may have missed a few job opportunities by refusing to lie on my resumé or in the interview.

In hindsight, I probably wouldn't have enjoyed working for a company that expects people to lie to get the job.

On the plus side, my investments in renewable energy (home solar, battery, EV, etc) because of my refusal to pay fossil fuel companies has already paid for itself.

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TerrabyteMarx 12 points 5 months ago

Currently trying not to fixate on the past too much but at every juncture it's been pivotal.
Core memories involve standing up to people more powerful than me whilst witnessing others pretend nothing is happening in order to preserve their sense of normalcy.

Trying to practice compassion for people who don't/ can't speak out for the sake of my own sanity and deeply fear being the kind of person who stays quiet.

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CodenameDarlen 9 points 5 months ago
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chosensilence 4 points 5 months ago

i can relate a tremendous amount to how you feel. it's almost identical for me. i received an Accounting degree and am so disillusioned in the business world i fucking hate it. profit seeking companies are the absolute worst and i hated having any role in their success because i felt complicit in continuing the system.

The modern world is making me crazy, I’m requiring medicines and going to therapy once a week, and I still can’t handle it and get my shit together. Greed and selfishness everywhere you look at. Nobody wants genuinely take care of others.

hear me: you aren't alone. i echo this 100%. i am also in therapy and on increased medication for recent increased worry. i have been in the ER for suicidal ideation and attended both partial hospitalization programs and intensive outpatient programs. i am doing better for unrelated reasons but the crushing weight of the world still keeps me awake at night. in fact, i am in legal trouble for the first time in my goddamn life because of decisions i made thinking i may need to flee my state. not only have i gone crazy i have risked my own freedom. capitalism and fascism is literally destroying my life and the ability to function.

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CodenameDarlen 3 points 5 months ago
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chosensilence 1 point 5 months ago

you're very welcome and i must thank you as well. as i said, i recently learned of my autism as well.. didn't know so much of my experiences could be related to it, like this. you being able to connect to me and also finding it comforting is giving me my own comfort. it makes me feel like it isn't just me.. it isn't just something fundamentally wrong with me like i've always believed of myself. this has an explanation and it is valid. i can stop blaming myself lol.

thank you.

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RebekahWSD 8 points 5 months ago

I remember being told as a child I was too rigid in my thinking and now I'm just like HOW WAS THAT NOT A THING THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD MOTHER.

Oh right because she's still in denial and I'm almost 40.

It's makes memories cantankerous, sure does. Why are those kids allowed to be little shits, but if I all for x its treated like I'm being an asshat and deserve mocking? Bah. Bah fuck that.

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kat_angstrom 8 points 5 months ago

Made me leave the church + religion of my youth when glaring hypocrisy or outright toxicity was hand-waved away by the people I'd been told I should look up to.

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hellfire103 8 points 5 months ago

Well, it's made it difficult to find an industrial placement at uni. While many of my peers are going to be working for BlackRock, Leonardo, Boeing, or some AI-related company during third year, I'm probably going to be attending lectures. It's also made my workflow tricky, as I have a thousand (hyperbole) reasons why I won't use certain software or operating systems, which in turn means I have to reverse-engineer and self-teach slightly more of my degree than other students.

Also, I'm not sure if this is the strong sense of justice, increased empathy, a subconscious inability to detect sarcasm, or a combination thereof, but I also can't make jokes at people's expense when they don't deserve it (even if I know it would be okay). For example, I am a member of three student societies, one of which is a Formula Student team. There is wall-to-wall banter each time I go in and I always have a good laugh, but I feel as though I am physically incapable of making any jokes myself. I wouldn't even have to worry about going too far: most of the society is also autistic to some degree (and therefore able to understand), and any particularly edgy humour is always perpetuated by the members it's about (if that makes sense).

However, I also believe I have benefited somewhat from my sense of justice. I refuse to use AI in any capacity (even when we would be allowed for our work), due to the environmental and social consequences. I would say that having to actually understand what I'm doing is far better than the alternative -- meanwhile, most people I know are using Gemini to write their shellscripts.

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savvywolf 8 points 5 months ago

I'm a kinky furry with a habit of hyperfocusing on problems until they're solved, has difficulty challenging authority and whose sense of self worth depends on others.

So yeah... The past few years have been rough with everything in the world. I'm still limping on though.

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chosensilence 1 point 5 months ago

I'm a kinky furry

oh hey same waddup

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WoodScientist 7 points 5 months ago

Once quit a job on the spot after they asked me to write nuclear safety regulation documents that I did not feel remotely quality to write.

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ianhclark510 7 points 5 months ago

Frankly, it hit me recently, growing up I’d notice things that didn’t feel right, and people would pass it off as me being young and naive, and I’d believe them, because why would a kid know better

Now flash forward to today, I’m pushing 30 and the same, if not worse feeling stuff happens and it’s like ohhh, I’ve learned, but I haven’t changed, I wasn’t wrong before

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disregardable 7 points 5 months ago

mostly it's just annoying others by insisting on the rules. other people seem to just bend the rules whenever they feel like it, and that can be a problem for me to accept.

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protogen420 4 points 5 months ago

I refuse to cheat in exams unlike most of my peers, so I have been doing quiet poorly in academia

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Kojichan 3 points 5 months ago

Definitely got beat up in school for being a teachers pet, and tattle tale...

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rekabis 3 points 5 months ago

It has made me inordinately sensitive to systemic societal hypocrisies. Especially differences between how the genders are treated.

Like, yes, there are still a lot of issues with how women are treated that needs improvement. But holy hell, compare a serious problem that isn’t gender-specific - DV, homelessness, suicide, workplace deaths, even rape - and how that issue gets handled depending on the gender means the average man instantly becomes a second-class citizen behind any woman. Or worse - not even worth consideration in any capacity, despite men being either equally victimized or the majority of victims. Men are literally being treated as trash for the crime of having been born male.

And no, in general it’s not other men doing this to men. They are forced to look away and do nothing to help other men, or risk being accused of being “misogynists” themselves because helping male victims “takes resources/attention away from women in need”.

This is why, as one example, political support for so many men’s issues is absolutely radioactive and invariably terminates careers at the very next election. So nothing ever gets done, while the other side has help galore shovelled at them from all directions.

It’s why, despite fully supporting women’s rights, I call myself an egalitarianist. Because I am not a gender bigot. I fight for rights on both sides, because that is the dictionary definition of “equality”.

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bridgeenjoyer 1 point 5 months ago

I didn't actually know this was something nts do. I get irrationally angry at injustice and can't understand why people near me aren't as outraged at the pure evil going on

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chosensilence 1 point 5 months ago

they have a sense of righteousness and justice just like we do, but nts are typically willing to compromise more readily. i am not lol. my principles are my principles unless i change them myself.

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