Fan ejected from US Open match after German player said the man used language from Hitler's regime

3 years ago by MicroWave to c/news

A fan was ejected from a U.S. Open tennis match early Tuesday morning after German player Alexander Zverev complained the man used language from Adolf Hitler’s Nazi regime.

Zverev, the No. 12 seed, was serving at 2-2 in the fourth set of his match against No. 6 Jannik Sinner when he suddenly went to chair umpire James Keothavong and pointed toward the fan, who was sitting in a section behind the umpire.

“He just said the most famous Hitler phrase there is in this world,” Zverev told Keothavong. “It’s not acceptable.”

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“He started singing the anthem of Hitler that was back in the day. It was ‘Deutschland über alles’ and it was a bit too much,” Zverev said.

SpicaNucifera 131 points 3 years ago

Shoutout to Germans and their zero tolerance policy and these sorts of shenanigans.

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uis -19 points 3 years ago

Alexander Zverev

Yeah, Germans

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isVeryLoud 7 points 3 years ago

That's a pretty xenophobic comment right there.

People of different family lineages can be German citizens and culturally German. Imagine if we went "Yeah, Americans" at every Gonzalez in the United States.

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uis -3 points 3 years ago

That's a pretty xenophobic comment right there.

I'm not a German too, FYI.

People of different family lineages can be German citizens and culturally German. Imagine if we went "Yeah, Americans" at every Gonzalez in the United States.

You are missing the point. This sounds like "Yandex is company in Netherlands".

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Ejh3k 27 points 3 years ago

I wish they'd identify the fan. Fuck that guy.

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Sylver 31 points 3 years ago

Nah they don’t deserve their name in the papers in any way

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Ejh3k 10 points 3 years ago

At least all over social media. Let his bosses and customers learn about it and ruin his life.

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BilboBargains -2 points 3 years ago

We should be able to make mistakes.

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NuMetalAlchemist 8 points 3 years ago

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Ejh3k 2 points 3 years ago

That was an on purpose. Guy was warned about it, did it again. Fuck him.

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los_chill 12 points 3 years ago

The broadcast of the match showed security finding him and removing him.

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tallwookie 9 points 3 years ago

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FReddit 5 points 3 years ago

Arbeit macht frei.

Over the gate of Auschwitz.

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rez_doggie 4 points 3 years ago

America First

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BilboBargains 1 point 3 years ago

Build that wall?

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uis -16 points 3 years ago

German player Alexander Zverev

:)))))))

Very German.

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lud 12 points 3 years ago

He was born in Germany and is a German citizen, so yes.

His parents are of Russian origin though and probably German citizens by now.

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johnnyb -38 points 3 years ago

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theKalash 30 points 3 years ago

It's not though.

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Akrenion 14 points 3 years ago

It's part of the poem the anthem is based on. The meaning has been perverted from one of cultural reach to one of conquest.

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dvdv 2 points 3 years ago

I was about to say. I'm not German and I could be wrong but isn't it the first line in your current anthem? Would love for a German to put it into context other than just 'Hitler bad' why is that specific first line of the anthem associated with him?

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wahming 5 points 3 years ago

https://www.dw.com/...

Very detailed explanation

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dvdv 2 points 3 years ago

Ah, that makes a lot of sense, thank you! Reminds me of my country's anthem where we also forgo many parts and only sing the first and sixth instead of all 15.

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wahming 1 point 3 years ago

https://www.dw.com/...

Your national anthem is the third verse of the original song.

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theodewere -39 points 3 years ago

"I think he was getting involved in the match for a long time, though. I don’t mind it, I love when fans are loud, I love when fans are emotional"

sounds like the guy had been cheering loudly in support of Zverev the whole match, and this was after a couple of hours and the guy legitimately just got really carried away shouting some stupid shit.. doesn't sound like the fan was seriously supporting Hitler or anything.. apparently just a loud moron who needed some attention..

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themeatbridge 55 points 3 years ago

"Shouting some stupid shit" is a really generous description of chanting Nazi slogans.

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NewNewAccount 29 points 3 years ago

Yeah I hate it when I’m out having a good time and I accidentally let some Nazi shit slip out! Whoopsy!!!!

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Hackerman_uwu 16 points 3 years ago

Ah you know, Nazis will be Nazis .

/rolls eyes

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theodewere -30 points 3 years ago

in context though? the context that i went to great lengths to provide? you're just ignoring that to try to make an argumentative point..

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MagicShel 21 points 3 years ago

I don’t think that context excuses nearly as much as you think. At no point in my life have I been drunk or giddy enough to shout God Save the Queen or recite some confederate anthem. And I’ve been damn drunk before.

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yacht_boy 6 points 3 years ago

Sounds like a challenge. I'll bring the Cuervo, you bring the Beam, let's get drunk and sing God Save the Queen!

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theodewere 3 points 3 years ago

alright, if that sounded like an excuse to you this morning, i apologize alright.. i was not excusing this moron..

reactionary fuckwits gauging the harshness of language

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themeatbridge 11 points 3 years ago

Yes, in any context, and the more context you provide to justify Nazi chants, the less convincing any argument you make will be.

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theodewere -9 points 3 years ago

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kraftpudding 9 points 3 years ago

Idk. I don't think this particular phrase would even enter my mind as something to chant, and I am German. That's not the first time he chanted that, I'm sure. It is taboo for sure, but it's not in the cultural consciousness a lot, there's more "popular" nazi slogans. You'd either have to search your brain for something specifically Hitler related or be very familiar with the old anthem (aka singing it a lot aka being a neonazi).

I do not agree that this is the "most" Hitler thing though. There are so much more famous things, hut they wouldn't fit the situation though.

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theodewere -1 points 3 years ago

i think you like to pat yourself on the back, and moreover you like to use things like this as a self back patter

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MartinXYZ -2 points 3 years ago

It was probably an American fan(it is the US Open) who thinks that's still the German national anthem... Still good on the player for shutting that shit down, it's a misunderstanding that doesn't need to be repeated.

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Cethin 6 points 3 years ago

My thought is that it was an American neo-nazi (it is the US Open) who thought it was acceptable to repeat something he shouldn't have.

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kraftpudding 4 points 3 years ago

Idk, maybe. I listened to the audio, and to me, it did sound like someone who speaks German well. The pronounciations and emphasis sounded very natural. And fans do travel for events like these. Of course it could be an American, but somehow I still doubt it. Is this phrase known in the US?

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PsychedSy 2 points 3 years ago

I've heard it before. I'm not sure I'd know which was the current anthem if you played the nazi one and the current one before today, though.

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