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4 months ago by gigastasio to c/lemmyshitpost

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Drusas 15 points 4 months ago

Europeans don't have to drive to survive the way most Americans do.

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Tar_alcaran 6 points 4 months ago

Oh no, if it isn't the consequences of everyone's collective actions

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lemmock -15 points 4 months ago
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Tar_alcaran 44 points 4 months ago

That's such a nonsense argument. 80% of the US lives in an urban area. That has plenty of options for walkable neighborhoods with public transportation. The reason that those don't exist are active policy choices that people have voted for and keep voting for.

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Drusas -16 points 4 months ago

Have you even been to the US? Even most of the urban areas have horrible public transit and even worse infrastructure for biking.

Maybe get off your high horse and engage in reality.

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abysmalpoptart 47 points 4 months ago

I think that's exactly what that person is saying though. There is plenty of opportunity for good public infrastructure, but bad policy and auto lobbies have prevented them from happening. A good example is how most neighborhoods are not allowed to be located with businesses/shops/restaurants, and vice versa. This simple change would make so much more of the country more walkable

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PalmTreeIsBestTree 8 points 4 months ago

The shitty thing is before WW2, America had some of the best public and most profitable transportation infrastructure in the world. American railroad tycoons were some of the most wealthy individuals in the nation for a time even and before that it was steamboat tycoons. As you say auto lobbyist ruined it all unfortunately and AmTrak is a sad excuse of what’s left.

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abysmalpoptart 5 points 4 months ago

To this day, the boomers in my life tell me that "freight trains in the US are the envy of the world." Ok, great, but it would be nice if it was usable in daily life

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