awful.systems defederates the FAF due to disinfo. Then deletes the official FAF statement on the matter so that disinfo can better proliferate.

a month ago by db0 to c/yepowertrippinbastards

A random awful.systems user posted the recent disinfo about the FAF using LLMs for moderation. I went in and tried to clarify the situation, and I admit I got kinda upset when they kept ignoring my statements in order to be snarky. Eventually I believed we reached an understanding but I was sadly mistaken which I should have imagine as awful.systems residents kept downvoting all my replies.

As I finished writing a post to explain our official instance policy, I noticed they just jumped to defederation anyway, the reason being...the same disinfo I just went through a lot of effort to debunk. They just called my debunking of the disinfo as "DARVO" which is just disgusting trivialization of harasser behaviour by @dgerard, but I digress.

Anyway I finished my post and once I posted it in our instance, I thought they would at least allow me simply to link to it to provide what we actually believe.

Lol, nope, instant delete and ban

Here's their charming admin casually admitting that even though we explicitly told them this is not what we're doing, they just going to disbelieve and make up their own headcanon.

Anyway, I shouldn't be surprised, dgerard has been known to spread disinfo, so this is just more of the same.

naevaTheRat 21 points a month ago

Lemmy continues to make a joke of itself by having the least well adjusted people ever running the infrastructure 🙃

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alapakala 14 points a month ago

reluctant to answer the reality

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alapakala 13 points a month ago

My wife literally stopped me, and forced me to post this. well adjusted people rarely ever run infrastructure

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db0 1 point a month ago

What's the significance of using a Jo-Jo reference for this?

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alapakala 2 points a month ago

ざをるど！

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psud 1 point a month ago

If no one will take you, if your idea of fun doesn't mesh with more popular ideas, self hosting is the only option

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Grainne 19 points a month ago

And nothing was lost.

Good riddance to a troll instance.

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dethedrus 18 points a month ago

What the sweaty hell is happening to our crusty little nook of the fediverse? Did Rimu suffer a TBI or get way into something mind altering?

PTB all the way down, baby.

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Grainne 13 points a month ago

Rimu is breaking the Fediverse. We had a good thing going for a few years.

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Goferking0 9 points a month ago

Just amazed this is what did it not the previous string of piefed breaking activepub.

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MysticMushroom1776 9 points a month ago

I think he was always like this, just better at hiding it, or suppressing information about it. People started to notice and they called out the codebase changes and that's when everything spiraled.

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maam 15 points a month ago

I have heard that awful.systems users are rude.

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db0 20 points a month ago

They regularly confuse rudeness with righteousness.

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dbtng 9 points a month ago

The instance is an excuse for one writer and his socks to generate publicity.
There may be a couple other actual humans. Maybe.

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ggtdbz 8 points a month ago

The only community I regularly enjoyed from there was Tech Takes but tech takes aren’t exactly something we’re starved for elsewhere in the Lemmyverse lol

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dbtng 3 points a month ago

I was proudly banned from that instance, back before it was cool.

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kip 7 points a month ago

heavens forfend. pass the smelling salts

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RickyRigatoni 7 points a month ago

Their entire instance is dedicated to snark and whining about shit nobody cares about. I'm not sure why anyone is federated with them at all. They serve zero purpose.

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mathemachristian 14 points a month ago

looks like they wanted to defed for a long time and were looking for a convenient excuse, I wouldn't put too much blame on Rimu for that.

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MysticMushroom1776 13 points a month ago

PTB, this seems like a troll instance. Nothing much of value was lost. Kind of feel like we should mutually defederate from them anyway in case they decide to reverse it later to start more shit.

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AzuranAurora 12 points a month ago

PTB, what a prick.

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curbstickle 11 points a month ago

PTB.

I think the last screenshot says it all.

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dbtng 9 points a month ago

Fuk these clowns.
It's one guy and his fanboys. They make a sport of being jerks.
And sucking off their head bozo. They really like to do that.

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Mac 6 points a month ago

I don't particularly believe you guys either, for what my opinion is worth.

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db0 7 points a month ago

That's just your own biases coming through

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dbtng 0 points a month ago

Well ... some healthy disbelief seems apropos here.
If you are in a fight with Awful Systems over who can be the most awful, they fukin win. Every time.
But your name in particular comes up in mod complaints quite a bit. There might be a reason for that. I mean, look how you responded to this person. Seems like a debatable point, at very least.

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db0 3 points a month ago

I think I was quite polite to someone calling us liars to our face

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dbtng 0 points a month ago

Sure. You're a polarizing figure.
We don't cross paths much. Mostly I just see people complaining about you.

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null -10 points a month ago

YDI

Using LLMs as part of moderation and then downplaying it is shady as hell.

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db0 6 points a month ago

Not upplaying != downplaying it.

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MysticMushroom1776 3 points a month ago

Honestly kind of think null should be permabanned. Nothing they've ever contributed has been in good faith and I have a feeling they will continue to troll in the future as the rest of this unfolds. Just my opinion.

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eugenevdebs 3 points a month ago

Agreed, nothing good has come from them at all.

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eugenevdebs 2 points a month ago

It's not downplaying to give facts and state the correct history of actions.

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MysticMushroom1776 5 points a month ago

null is a troll, they've been engaging in bad faith to create more discord ever since the drama around @rimu@piefed.social started. Their replies in the thread about a mod on !fediverse@piefed.social locking comment chains to stop discussion are all petty trolling attempts.

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eugenevdebs 2 points a month ago

I do find it hilarious that he complained about me reporting him for breaking rules, and he was banned for "mass reporting comments". Once again, pure hypocrisy from the man.

I once got the dude so tilted he mass downvoted my account. And then recently got him so angry he stalked my account for days for when I talked about his weird actions to me.

I don't even think of him until he shows up.

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Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

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Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
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Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

YPTB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.

Some acronyms you might see.

PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

Posting Guidelines

All posts should follow this basic structure:

Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

Rules

Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
Keep the comments in YPTB posts about the moderation action itself, not about the general topic in which the moderation took place.

Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

YPTB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.

Some acronyms you might see.

PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
CLM - Clueless Mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.

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