If lemmy split down the lines of violence

Yes, its generative, but it illustrates the idea

I was going to post on !fedimemes@feddit.uk but that instance has a no generative content policy.

I think a major limiter on lemmy growth are the instances that encourage talk of violence, crime, being abusive to others, and are just generally super combative...bad neighbors - maybe not written into the instance rules, but as demonstrated by what instance admins don't enforce on their own users.

I know a schism is scary for a small society like lemmy, but I'm starting to think its necessary

if not a defederation, some protocol level whitelisting of users or comms that demonstrate the bare minimum of being able to play nicely with others (realizing this would take some novel work - like adding a user level whitelist to federation rather then the current banlist, and while were at it some eventual consistency in meta-state in bans)

Basically, the toxicity needs to be partitioned off, gated, or some level of meta-moderation for instances that wont police themselves to minimum levels of behavior. It's embarrassing to share lemmy with people I know now, given how off the wall it quickly gets.

ptz 5 points 5 months ago

Whatever the solution or solutions are, I just wish more people in positions to do something about it would....do something about it. Because I 100% agree it's embarrassing to share the Fediverse with anyone as it currently is.

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SarahValentine 1 point 5 months ago

I may believe in pacifism as the way for myself to live, but I also believe that if someone is going to step up into that role, declare themselves like that, then they have set expectations for themselves in others' eyes. If they fail to meet those expectations but keep playing the role and acting like a qualified leader of mankind, they should lose all authority and be prepared to face ridicule for their farce.

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snek_boi 4 points 5 months ago

The right side looks sicks. Makes me wanna play some Blades in the Dark with my friends 🤤

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snek_boi 3 points 5 months ago

On a more serious note, I also sometimes wonder to what extent Lemmy is prone to FUD and content designed to increase anxiety rather than move us toward a better community.

Someone with the technical know-how could perhaps quantify the amount, proportion, and visibility of content that moves us toward valued ends compared to content that dumb us down to merely thinking about survival.

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frightful_hobgoblin 3 points 5 months ago

Nice art

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SarahValentine 3 points 5 months ago

People ready and willing to give in to violent impulses are on both side of the issue, and both sides need to handle those people so the rest of us can talk. The problem is that one side is handling theirs, and the other side isn't. The longer this goes on, the worse it looks for those of us still trying to hold back the violence from our side, but it's not a matter of things getting bad enough that we can justify letting the violent ones go ahead. It's about holding fast to higher principles no matter what anyone else says or does. It's about having the strength and courage to believe in a future of peaceful coexistence, to move toward that goal, no matter how ineffective it might seem right now.

Our true enemy is nothing less than the survival-selected instincts that kept our kind alive until today, when we can replace those instincts with social and technological security. We developed that security in a matter of centuries. Evolution takes hundreds of thousands of years. Do the math. Choose peace.

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