That's a no

3 months ago by Return_of_Chippy to c/lemmyshitpost

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DScratch 302 points 3 months ago

Merging at the last minute is the correct way to do it.

Zipper merge, you fucks!

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flandish 86 points 3 months ago

thank you. the math agrees, too. zipper merges are the way to go!

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Mongostein 80 points 3 months ago

Depends. If there’s lots of traffic, yes. If it’s sparse enough that you can merge without slowing people down too much, just do it early.

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IrateAnteater 90 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that's the big asterisk on the "zipper merging is more efficient" premise. It assumes that things are already bottlenecked. If you have the space to merge early without slowing down, you do that. People trying to force their way in at the last minute (when they didn't have to) is one of the things that triggers the bottleneck in the first place.

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TheJesusaurus 3 points 3 months ago

If it's that sparse then the situation in the meme is a non-issue

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod 23 points 3 months ago

I would agree with this if literally anyone else knew how to zipper merge

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Banana 22 points 3 months ago

The solution is educating people about zipper merging, not getting angry at those who actually do it.

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Philote 20 points 3 months ago

At a respectable speed though, merge lane is not a passing lane. My rule is whatever speed can be maintained stay with the car speed in the lane to be merged into, jamming the front punishes everyone cueing properly.

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ragepaw 18 points 3 months ago

The the merging lane is empty for a half km, then it's proper to drive to the front and merge. If you just drive slow, then you're a problem for the sake of being a problem.

Drive to the front, match speed, zipper merge. It isn't hard.

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IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds 13 points 3 months ago

Gave a ride to someone who for one hour kept bitching about drivers who use zipper merge properly. didn't want to tell him he was wrong.

he was so convinced and fuel by hatred of better drivers.

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wonderingwanderer 4 points 3 months ago

Zooming to the front to try to merge at the last minute and creating a choke point that stops traffic for half a mile is NOT the correct way to do a zipper merge...

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DScratch 7 points 3 months ago

You shouldn’t be able to, because both lanes are full and moving at half speed.

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Visstix -3 points 3 months ago

Yes before the lane is closed. They are not doing that.

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MSBBritain 21 points 3 months ago

No. You are explicitly supposed to go to the very end of the closing lane, and then merge, not before it closes.

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LurkingLuddite -7 points 3 months ago

Nothing about the zipper merge says, "last minute". It is wholly and entirely about matching speeds and making room.

Guess what dictates the speed of the lane that gets to travel forward? The amount of traffic that gets to travel... in that reduced number of lanes.

The people racing to the end of the closing lane are doing nothing but increasing traffic density, which directly hurts the effort of zipper merging. If it's going from two lanes to one, the density MUST halve somewhere if traffic is full. That's never going to happen at full speed if there are assholes wedging in at the last second and pushing traffic density past what people comfortably go full speed at.

Hint: it is not bumper to bumper on the highway.

Again: Merging at the last second does nothing but push traffic density up. Often past comfortable densities, which will slow traffic. It's the exact same reason rolling stops happen even without traffic accidents or lane closures in dense traffic.

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Randelung 16 points 3 months ago

Last minute is absolutely part of it. Use the available queueing space to keep congestion from spreading. I don't know where you drive where bumper to bumper didn't happen, though.

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