Pizza 🌟

4 months ago by diffaldo to c/memes

DaddleDew 91 points 4 months ago

Lobster, caviar, mussels, oysters, sushi, ribs, fondue, raclette... They all started as poor people's dishes

path: 0 24170136, hotness: undefined, score: 91, children: 9
chuckleslord 29 points 4 months ago

And only became associated with luxury due to the insane costs of producing and shipping them at scale. Well, for the seafood anyways.

path: 0 24170136 24171138, hotness: undefined, score: 29, children: 2
Zombie 15 points 4 months ago

Don't forget the scarcity through over extracting! Nothing says luxury like near extinction.

path: 0 24170136 24171138 24172062, hotness: undefined, score: 15, children: 0
loutr 6 points 4 months ago

Shipping used to be the hard part. Eating caviar in Russia in a place with sturgeons nearby was easy enough, serving it at a fancy diner in Berlin or Paris involved insane logistics for the time.

path: 0 24170136 24171138 24173865, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
blackjam_alex 8 points 4 months ago

Pizza

path: 0 24170136 24171728, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 1
diffaldo 2 points 4 months ago

its one of the best things in life 👍

path: 0 24170136 24171728 24174851, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
0_o7 4 points 4 months ago

"Tricksy little scrooges, they stole it from us."

path: 0 24170136 24186366, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
TheGreatRapsBeat 4 points 4 months ago

Mussels, oysters and lobster (prawns as well) really pisses me off. Lobster costing like $30-40 a fucking tail is absolutely insane. They are pretty much the rabbits or rats of the ocean.

path: 0 24170136 24187019, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 1
DaddleDew 3 points 4 months ago

May I presume you live far from where lobsters are found? In places local to where they're caught they are no where near that expensive. Transporting live lobster is probably far more expensive than most other foods.

path: 0 24170136 24187019 24187403, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
Drusas 2 points 4 months ago

Mussels, at least, are still fairly cheap. For now.

path: 0 24170136 24179452, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
Agent641 32 points 4 months ago

Puttanesca was invented by prostitutes. It's a sort of stew/ragout with seafood anchovies and olives, served on spaghetti

path: 0 24170349, hotness: undefined, score: 32, children: 10
Sonotsugipaa 29 points 4 months ago

Checks out, "pasta alla puttanesca" literally translates to "whore-style pasta"

path: 0 24170349 24170603, hotness: undefined, score: 29, children: 7
Akasazh 8 points 4 months ago

Why not whore-ish

path: 0 24170349 24170603 24171024, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 4
idiomaddict 11 points 4 months ago

Slutty spaghetti

path: 0 24170349 24170603 24171024 24174817, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 2
Agent641 4 points 4 months ago

Next Halloween costume

path: 0 24170349 24170603 24171024 24174817 24179077, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
lemmyng 3 points 4 months ago

sssssssssluuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrp

path: 0 24170349 24170603 24171024 24174817 24187121, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
Sonotsugipaa 2 points 4 months ago

That would be "pasta puttanesca"

path: 0 24170349 24170603 24171024 24175673, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
diffaldo 4 points 4 months ago

Love me some whore dish đŸ€€

path: 0 24170349 24170603 24174807, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
luxadazy 2 points 4 months ago
path: 0 24170349 24170603 24173061, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
Beacon 12 points 4 months ago path: 0 24170349 24171211, hotness: undefined, score: 12, children: 1
Agent641 5 points 4 months ago

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story

path: 0 24170349 24171211 24179114, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
Someonelol 29 points 4 months ago

Foods that are for poor people in their country of origin suddenly spike in price when served in richer countries. Banh mi is like a dollar in Saigon but almost 9 in the US.

path: 0 24172255, hotness: undefined, score: 29, children: 8
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds 8 points 4 months ago

does that has a name? or can we call it food gentrification?

path: 0 24172255 24172334, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 2
idiomaddict 4 points 4 months ago

It’s also partially just the truth of supply chains. I’m from the US, but live in Germany and the peaches here are simply always going to be more expensive for a worse peach (I’m sure somewhere in Italy or Spain can produce good peaches, but I haven’t had them yet).

path: 0 24172255 24172334 24174861, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
DragonTypeWyvern 3 points 4 months ago

Purchasing Power and local market variables.

path: 0 24172255 24172334 24174842, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
Bluescluestoothpaste 8 points 4 months ago

I mean big mac is $9 in the US lol, sandwiches just dont get much cheaper than that here nowadays 😭

path: 0 24172255 24177698, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
deft 6 points 4 months ago

It's because of the labor and cost of goods.

Ingredients to make banh mi are very cheap but workers in the US are paid more for transportation, making the food and the business operating(lights, has, etc) so now the price rise to fit the cost.

Also some items are priced higher to cover more expensive ingredients. Let's say you are doing beef banh mi, that's usually scrap beef from something, let's say some sirloin scraps, your steak on the menu should probably be like $40 but if you sell a ton of banh mi you can cut that price down to like $30-$35.

path: 0 24172255 24175016, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
solidheron 2 points 4 months ago

Though it was weird that bahn exists in the US when we have sub places in the US. Never ordered a bahn mi when pho is on the menu, but they look like small subs

path: 0 24172255 24177549, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 2
Bluescluestoothpaste 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah it's basically a sub with thai spices and sauces instead of mustard ketchup etc -- there's lots of places that are only bahn mi and nothing else, it's getting quite popular.

path: 0 24172255 24177549 24177711, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 1
solidheron 3 points 4 months ago

I do like Vietnamese seasoning

path: 0 24172255 24177549 24177711 24179495, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
AeonFelis 19 points 4 months ago

Hypothesis - rich people's food tastes good when made from top quality ingredients by top quality chefs using top quality equipment. Of course, virtually any kind of food will taste better under these conditions - but for rich people's food these are mandatory conditions for it to be palatable.

This improves its wealth signaling qualities. If you serve pizza to your guests of course it'd taste good - no surprise there. It's pizza. But if you serve caviar and it tastes good - it means you have the means to procure high quality caviar.

According to this hypothesis, when the lower (or even middle) classes get the chance to try these foods, it's usually the cheaper kind. Because who would waste good caviar on you? And because taste degrades so steeply with price, we think the type of food itself tastes bad - simply because we are not tasting the same grade the rich eat.

Poor people's food, of course, is the exact opposite. It's design to taste good even with cheaper ingredients, common equipment, and lower cooking skills (I'm not saying poor people are bad cooks - but you can't compare one's expertise with one chore among many to the top experts that money can buy)

path: 0 24177498, hotness: undefined, score: 19, children: 5
Impractical_Island 12 points 4 months ago

Because who would waste good caviar on you?

My mom would.

path: 0 24177498 24177771, hotness: undefined, score: 12, children: 1
espurr 6 points 4 months ago

Awww

path: 0 24177498 24177771 24183178, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
Honytawk 12 points 4 months ago

Or... rich people only like expensive food because it is expensive, not because it tastes good.

They want to flaunt their wealth when having visitors, so they only buy the rarest of ingredients and demand a lot of work to put into it in order to call them delicacies.

If the ingredients really would be of high quality, they wouldn't need a lot of preparation. The ingredients would speak for themselves.

Price is considered in their taste.

path: 0 24177498 24183805, hotness: undefined, score: 12, children: 0
MonkderVierte 4 points 4 months ago

Expensive meals have the value mostly in more presentation for less amount.

path: 0 24177498 24187385, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
tigeruppercut 2 points 4 months ago

who would waste good caviar on you? And because taste degrades so steeply with price

I'm not sure caviar is the best example here. A lot of people just don't like fish eggs, which is fine. But tons of other people eat fish eggs that aren't caviar, like salmon eggs, which are a common sushi ingredient and relatively cheap. Fish eggs definitely don't need to be sturgeon caviar to taste good, even if most people don't like them in general.

But unless you're in Japan, you're probably a somewhat rich westerner if you're eating any kind of fish eggs regularly, so maybe rich people just tend to have more access to things that would expand their palates.

path: 0 24177498 24187268, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
Kolanaki 17 points 4 months ago

"This food tastes like garbage!"

"What did you expect? Rich people eat the garbage parts of the food."

"Well I ate garbage yesterday and it didn't cost me $300! Good day, sir!"

path: 0 24176008, hotness: undefined, score: 17, children: 0
PinkiePieYay2707 17 points 4 months ago

For tea, that is Genmaicha, which is a green tea with roasted rice added in as a filler. Tastes delicious and is pretty cheap!

path: 0 24172580, hotness: undefined, score: 17, children: 0
BarneyPiccolo 14 points 4 months ago

Peasant food is the best food. Rich people's food is stupid with all those little portions, and foam.

path: 0 24175333, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 1
rustydrd 7 points 4 months ago

Excuse me, it's called a sensory experience thank you very much!

path: 0 24175333 24176316, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
Drusas 8 points 4 months ago

On a related note, Ethiopians make some delicious food. Everyone should at least try doro wat sometime.

path: 0 24179494, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 1
mushroommunk 2 points 4 months ago

And properly made Nigerian Jollof rice.

path: 0 24179494 24187247, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
desmosthenes 6 points 4 months ago

culture is born out of shared struggles

path: 0 24170987, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
saltesc 6 points 4 months ago

All the poor people couldn't afford cooks; the cooks were their neighbours too.

path: 0 24172408, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
sirico 6 points 4 months ago

History of bread

path: 0 24169997, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
yumyumsmuncher 4 points 4 months ago

Hallaca (Venezuelan tamal)

path: 0 24183878, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
Damage 3 points 4 months ago

Wait until you hear about Pinsa

path: 0 24173512, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 4
butwhyishischinabook 5 points 4 months ago

They just made up an "ancient" Roman version of pizza??

path: 0 24173512 24175708, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 1
Damage 2 points 4 months ago

In its basic version it's actually a flat bread like a focaccia, I've gotten used to keeping a pair of supermarket-sold ones in the fridge, if one day I don't have time to buy fresh bread I chuck one of those in the oven, no need to turn it into a pizza.

path: 0 24173512 24175708 24175974, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
diffaldo 1 point 4 months ago

Looks awesome but Its hard for me to find 3 types of wheat. is there a way to make it with normal wheat.

path: 0 24173512 24176250, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 1
Damage 3 points 4 months ago

In your kitchen you can do whatever you want

path: 0 24173512 24176250 24176328, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
MonkderVierte 3 points 4 months ago

What is rich people food? That also tastes good?

path: 0 24187339, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds 3 points 4 months ago

it happens the other way round.

Spices? meat?

Poor people get to eat diluted wheat porridge and be happy about it.

path: 0 24172365, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
MedicPigBabySaver 2 points 4 months ago

Can I get some Shepherd pie/Cottage pie?

path: 0 24184223, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
30p87 2 points 4 months ago

Every DDR dish is superior

path: 0 24169555, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 4
rustydrd 3 points 4 months ago

Soljanka for the fucking win

path: 0 24169555 24176342, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 1
Drusas 1 point 4 months ago

Made some bigos the other day. Not cheap when you have to buy the meat. And the cream. And the porcini.

path: 0 24169555 24176342 24179480, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Drusas 1 point 4 months ago

...dancing dishes?

path: 0 24169555 24179460, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Korhaka 1 point 4 months ago

Half of mine predate the DDR

path: 0 24169555 24169598, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Hideakikarate 2 points 4 months ago path: 0 24169825, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
Krauerking 1 point 4 months ago

Clever recipes have been my recent go to a lot lately.

I am starting to think the concepts of Asia being some socialist utopia comes partially from them having more simple cheap and mass made food items designed to feed lots of people for less resources. Food came first, governing style after.

path: 0 24173938, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 8
DragonTypeWyvern 3 points 4 months ago

I am starting to think the concepts of Asia being some socialist utopia

What concepts?

path: 0 24173938 24174827, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 1
Krauerking 2 points 4 months ago

You ever see those comments from people who wish they lived somewhere else and idealize another country?

path: 0 24173938 24174827 24180095, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
BarneyPiccolo 3 points 4 months ago

You think they invented that food culture to fit the society? Asian food culture evolved over centuries, it wasn't "designed." Rice was an established staple crop in Asia long before they were discussing modern governmental philosophies. It happens to fit your description of cheap and plentiful food, but it wasn't "designed" to be that, it evolved to be that.

path: 0 24173938 24175425, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 1
Krauerking 2 points 4 months ago

Right...

Obviously it was bred over generations but that is somewhat by design even slow and not always straight forward. And the methods of preparation have changed to allow for it to be used in lots of ways. My point was that the food shaped the culture because of its usefulness and let it be less restrictive. Why does it feel like everyone read this backwards?

path: 0 24173938 24175425 24180030, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
Drusas 2 points 4 months ago

There are concepts of Asia being a socialist utopia?

path: 0 24173938 24179510, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 1
Krauerking 3 points 4 months ago

Mmm I mean there us a lot of myth of it, even Mahayana Buddhism is built on the idea of everyone together.

But my point is specifically that the food somewhat feeds the myth from a staple grain allowing for more available calories while developing. And their dishes center around using small amounts for large portions with simple fillers.

It makes it feel like you could feed the poor. Better than corn starving them anyways if you know anything about Pellagra.

path: 0 24173938 24179510 24180092, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
Jake_Farm -1 points 4 months ago

Who told you all of asia is a monolith? They sound racist.

path: 0 24173938 24175991, hotness: undefined, score: -1, children: 0
BuboScandiacus -1 points 4 months ago

Oh a new CCP shill to add to my blocklist

path: 0 24173938 24175050, hotness: undefined, score: -1, children: 0
nul9o9 1 point 4 months ago
path: 0 24170330, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
memes
memes

@sopuli.xyz

login for more options
17263
3754
5793

Post memes here.

A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme.

An Internet meme or meme, is a cultural item that is spread via the Internet, often through social media platforms. The name is by the concept of memes proposed by Richard Dawkins in 1972. Internet memes can take various forms, such as images, videos, GIFs, and various other viral sensations.

  • Wait at least 2 months before reposting
  • No explicitly political content (about political figures, political events, elections and so on), !politicalmemes@lemmy.ca can be better place for that
  • Use NSFW marking accordingly

Laittakaa meemejÀ tÀnne.

  • Odota ainakin 2 kuukautta ennen meemin postaamista uudelleen
  • Ei selkeĂ€n poliittista sisĂ€ltöÀ (poliitikoista, poliittisista tapahtumista, vaaleista jne) parempi paikka esim. !politicalmemes@lemmy.ca
  • Merkitse K18-sisĂ€ltö tarpeen mukaan

go to feed...