How to calculate stardate? How is measured?

2 months ago by cuchi to c/startrek

Soon I'm gonna upload a fanfic I tried to wrote down, but I have the final thing to add: stardate.

I found a page, but I'm not sure if it is correct: https://www.hillschmidt.de/gbr/sternenzeit.htm

Somebody can give me a hand with this?

FriendOfDeSoto 20 points 2 months ago

Just do what all other writers have done and choose a starting point and then increment the numbers a bit every time. That horse has not only bolted, it ran past the horizon, had a fulfilling family life, and died of old age.

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cerement 20 points 2 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stardate

“This makes it impossible to convert all stardates into equivalent calendar dates, especially since stardates were originally intended to avoid specifying exactly when Star Trek takes place.”

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homes 13 points 2 months ago

During S1 of TNG is when it was first standardized. Beginning with 40xxx (2364), it increased to 41xxx (2365) and so on for every calendar year that TNG, DS9, and VOY were in production, including the TNG films. Star Trek Lower Decks, Prodigy, and Picard also follows the same format consistently. If there’s any logic beyond that, I don’t know of it.

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Manalith 4 points 2 months ago

I guess I'd probably use the xxx as the day of the year 001-365 but I'm almost certain I've heard a stardate like 40538 so that ultimately wouldn't work very well. Given that it's a sector of a galaxy and not specifically based around earths orbit of the sun, it would make sense that you would have more than 365 days in a star year.

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jimternet 3 points 2 months ago

This system is also used in Disco S3-5 and Starfleet Academy.

All the 23rd Century Trek has no consistency episode to episode.

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SiliconAvatar 10 points 2 months ago

This sent me down a rabbit hole, and I'll freely admit I only went as far down as I could still see the entrance behind me, because man, that is a rickety warren.

IRL there would be mind boggling complexities of calculating an objective system for marking time, when you have starships zipping about at faster than light speed. The subjective time of those crews would diverge from standard observed time, and between ships traveling in different directions, at different warp speeds, and for varying stretches of (subjective?) time.

The above is my dumbed-down understanding of time dilation. But the real real life explanation is that Gene Roddenberry and writer Samuel Peeples got tipsy and drew up their own galactic map with travel itineraries (presumably on napkins and backs of coasters 🙂):

"For the starship captain's log entry narrations, Roddenberry wanted to devise a futuristic measurement of time reference. He called (Sam) Peeples (whom Roddenberry had contacted early on for help in learning about science fiction, a subject he knew nothing about; it was Peeples who wrote "Where No Man Has Gone Before," the pilot that sold ST). The two men had a few drinks while brainstorming, and soon began chuckling over their imaginative 'stardate' computations. 'We tried to set up a system that would be unidentified unless you knew how we did it,' Peeples says."

"They marked off sections on a pictorial depiction of the known universe and extrapolated how much earth time would elapse when traveling between given points, taking into account that the Enterprise's warp engines would be violating Einstein's theory that nothing could exceed the speed of light. They concluded that the 'time continuum' would therefore vary from place to place, and that earth time may actually be lost in travel. 'So the stardate on Earth would be one thing, but the stardate on Alpha Centauri would be different,' Peeples says. 'We thought this was hilarious, because everyone would say, "How come this date is before that date when this show is after that show?" The answer was because you were in a different sector of the universe.'"

— Joel Engel, Gene Roddenberry: The Myth and the Man Behind Star Trek, cited in the Memory Alpha entry for "Stardate".

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usernamefactory 7 points 2 months ago

I’ve shared this here before. It’s the most extensive analysis of stardates I’ve encountered: atavachron.wikidot.com

Edit: fixed that link

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hessenjunge 2 points 2 months ago path: 0 24247746 24249108, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 1
usernamefactory 1 point 2 months ago

Oops, thanks for the fix

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cuchi 2 points 2 months ago

It gives me an error message.

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Scipitie 7 points 2 months ago

It's that realistic!

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mech 4 points 2 months ago

Lemmy did something weird with that link.
Just copy-paste the link text into a new browser tab instead of clicking it.

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Glitch 2 points 2 months ago

I like to think it's kinda like Semantic Versioning in programming

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