The Real Purpose of Wealth 💾

6 days ago by diffaldo to c/memes

orca 85 points 6 days ago

It makes me think of the rich assholes in Altered Carbon. They’ve lived so long in the most athletic and pristine “sleeves” that they’re essentially bored of life and their whims just get more and more unhinged, because they have zero moral checks and balances. It’s affluenza. Parasites in society that drag us all down with them.

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Rolder 41 points 6 days ago

Makes me think of 40k where the Eldars solved every problem in their society and then turned to debauchery so unhinged that they manifested a god of debauchery

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JoMiran 7 points 6 days ago

I am still pissed that the third audiobook in the Trilogy was done so poorly that it is essentially unlistenable. Especially given how well the first two were done.

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grrgyle 2 points 6 days ago

Oo there's a third....?

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Grandwolf319 34 points 6 days ago

While I fully agree, the meme kind of misses the point.

Money is power and power is the ability to do what you want. Once you get so much that you can do anything that society allows, if it’s gone to your head and corrupted you, you see the social taboos of society as a restriction on your freedom.

That’s why they always talk about freedom and that we should be removing social and government barriers, they reached the limit and honestly don’t know where to go from there.

They have spent their entire lives gaining privileges through more money and can’t conceive of any other way to live.

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explodicle 4 points 6 days ago

I've heard that the trans underground has the ultimate subjective experience, but Big Government wants to make transing illegal. Pass it on.

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Boppel 28 points 6 days ago

you could have everything. travel the world. feed the poor. learn the job you want. be an artist. study. live in your dream home. build your own workshop. do sports. bungee jumping. gaming. cinema. eat everyday in another fancy restaurant.

the fuck is wrong with them?

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Oka 13 points 6 days ago

They did all those things already (maybe they donated a little to a charity) and still were unfulfilled.

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Jake_Farm 8 points 6 days ago

The mansions of the rich don't look Like anyone's dream homes, they look like museums or art installations.

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spankinspinach 3 points 6 days ago

As though unlimited wealth doesn't fill a meaning vacuum

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grrgyle 2 points 6 days ago

I keep saying it but they'd be happier in just a regular degular working class life with friends and family who like you for who you are.

Notwithstanding that working class life is kind of shit because we allow the ultra wealthy to continue wealthing up our planet...

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cynar 12 points 6 days ago

A lot of people do exactly that.

Money has a strong diminishing return to happiness. Once you have enough to do what you want, and keep up that lifestyle from investments, you've "won".

Most who goes past that point are self selected as problematic personalities. They've figured out that more money = more power = more happy. When they are not happy, they obviously need to work harder to get more money. This doesn't make them happy and the feedback loop continues.

I would actually be curious if the curve goes negative after a while. There's a point where more money gets isolating. That is well past the point where the happiness gain becomes negligible too.

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grrgyle 7 points 6 days ago

I think I can kind of put myself in that headspace...

Reminds me of the rush I felt the first summer I discovered reading outdoors, but by next year it was gone so I started reading by the lake, and that lasted even less time. I tried reading while drinking tea, listening to music, etc, but I was just chasing the world's lamest dragon.

Anyway, as a former addict I could see what this treadmill was.

But I guess if money was no object maybe I'd be one of those assholes going on a beach vacation to read or something.

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Boppel 4 points 6 days ago

i think i read, that you need about 70.000 -100.000€ (probably a lot more in the US) a year to live in the happiness optimum. more helps, but after a certain sum it starts to make you unhappy again because you loose connection to "normal" people, start to get worried about loosing it and your lluxuries start to bore you/ yoi don't value them as much anymore. however having not enough money is clearly more dangerous in a capitalist system to make you unhappy since you loose the freedom of choice and action.

i guess it's annoying to see what rich people buy with their money since i don't value it that high and value my wishes higher (and i hate "minimal design" buildings with lawn or even ston gardens when you have clearly enough money to pay for beautiful buildings and a gardener. also fuck golf for having courses in nearly every town).

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cynar 3 points 6 days ago

I'd guess the flip over point is maybe a bit higher. I can see definite gains up to 500,000-1,000,000 a year.

I suspect the cut off is around there however. Assuming the same base work level to get it.

I could personally live VERY happily on 100k a year, but not afford EVERYTHING I could reasonably want.

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eyesaremosaics 20 points 6 days ago

This also has cause and effect backwards in many cases. People who do awful things are ripe for blackmailing and controlling, so they get inserted/promoted to important positions to act favourably for those running the blackmailing. (eg the Epstein files)

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viertesauge 19 points 6 days ago

I wonder if its seeking the thrill of something considered taboo? If you can afford everything and everyone you probably start seeking out more more and more extreme forms of "entertainment".

In conclusion no human should be given (close to) absolute power. We just arent made for it.

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snausagesinablanket 9 points 6 days ago

Forbidden means forbidden to decent folks rich or poor.

A sexual deviant with money is a dangerous predator.

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CultLeader4Hire 14 points 6 days ago

I’m really starting to think pedophilia isn’t a sexual orientation at all but rather a symptom of some sort of histrionic/narcissistic social/personality disorder.

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Holytimes 8 points 5 days ago

There's two general types of pedophilia, hebephilia, ephebophilia.

Those who legitimately have a sexual preference disorder typically as a side effect of a wider hormonal or developmental disorder.

These people can't help it, or physically lack the mental awareness to even understand it's wrong. In most cases it's manageable one way or another. This is also the only case where fake cp actually has shown actual use as a management and treatment method.

It's unpleasant to think about but it is what it is. There is also a lot of nuance here and a short post isn't the greatest way to discuss this topic reasonably.

Then your other type is rape. Its just your standard power play from someone who understands, can make informed choices and does it anyways. Its disgusting and these people should be put to death. There's zero excuse.

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rbn 6 points 5 days ago

I imagine that power is a similar stimulant as drugs. The more you have, the more you want. And with any kind of addiction, it quickly becomes toxic. You're wealthy, so you want to be super rich. Once you're super rich you want to have direct power over people instead of just power through capital. One form of this may be political activities, lobbyism, propaganda, buying land, sport teams etc. Another can be sexual domination and abuse and getting away with it. It's all a form of 'I can do whatever I want'. I guess Trump admitted the sexual dimension several times ('grab em by the pussy').

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Mulligrubs 13 points 6 days ago

Most are predatory with sociopathic traits, and child predation is the ultimate expression of that.

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Mac 12 points 6 days ago

...What am i looking at?

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Wataba 7 points 6 days ago

The aforementioned scum flailing around until theres CSAM to consume.

Porn is not a valid term for it.

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StarvingMartist 5 points 6 days ago

This is a bad image metaphor tbh, it's just a blurry picture of... Like, rats? I guess?

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agent_nycto 1 point 5 days ago

You have to click on it, it's a gif of mice running towards food but the food has "CHILD PORN" over it. I was confused too

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Mac 2 points 6 days ago

I don't see any CEOs in the image

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agent_nycto 5 points 5 days ago

You have to click on it, it's a gif of mice running towards food but the food has "CHILD PORN" over it. I was confused too

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Mac 5 points 5 days ago

Oohhhhhhhhh

THANK YOU

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diffaldo 4 points 5 days ago

Omg, I thought it was rhetorical question 😭 I wonder how it looks in your app, can u share screenshot please?

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Mac 4 points 5 days ago

Now that i know it's mice i can't unsee them but with no context i just saw fuzz.

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diffaldo 1 point 6 days ago

You are looking at the parasites doing their favorite activity.

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TankovayaDiviziya 10 points 6 days ago

It's about asserting power over the weaker by those who could.

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DupaCycki 10 points 6 days ago

I'm a little confused here.

We know for a fact they're predominantly evil sociopaths, war criminals, child predators, liars, thieves, rapists, and murderers, among other, equally horrifying crimes.

But we're still not shooting them on sight. How come?

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HiTekRedNek 9 points 6 days ago

Because we'd get caught and then destroyed in the media by the elite who want to keep doing it.

Can you imagine the outcry from the hardliners of either major US political party if someone with even minor leanings towards their "enemy" kills one of their elite?

The reality is, while many people say they'd willingly do that, the vast majority of people have too much to lose if they do, and they know it.

That's the real issue. The political elite have been pushing us right up to the breaking point for 100s of years, and they've learned just how far they can go without starting an actual revolution.

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explodicle 2 points 6 days ago

It would be interesting if we got some way to crowdfund a defense, but there's no way the government would be dumb enough to allow that to happen.

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Shanmugha 9 points 6 days ago

May be we do. One thing that has been stuck in my head for a long while: I have something to lose, and I have people to care about, same as many others. So I am not running around killing every bastard. But - there are people who have nothing to lose, no family etc. - what about them?

The answer may be quite simple: even when they do punish some bastards, I do not get to hear about this, because guess who controls the media. Yes, it doesn't cover "haven't heard anything like it at all" - but making it "almost didn't hear about it" for me is definitely possible

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explodicle 6 points 6 days ago

Did they just amplify the Brian Thompson story so we'd think "wow this must be rare"? His alleged shooter Luigi Mangione might get off, and the public loves him.

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Shanmugha 2 points 6 days ago

I wouldn't be surprised at all

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dejected_warp_core 4 points 6 days ago

there are people who have nothing to lose, no family etc. - what about them?

All I'm going to say is that squeezing the middle class like they have been is going to create a lot terminally ill people with otherwise treatable disease. Those people may very well be incredibly pissed off, along with family, and also have the time and resources to do things that might be life-ending anyway.

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Shanmugha 4 points 5 days ago

Yup. The further it goes, the more catastrophic "boom" will follow

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Blackmist 9 points 6 days ago path: 0 24299947, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 0
Avicenna 7 points 6 days ago

not to forget alot of scientists and artist for whom being in a VIP boys club and feeling special is apparently more important than being a decent human.

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ThatWeirdGuy1001 6 points 6 days ago

Preface: I am not attracted to kids!!!

I'm gonna get roasted alive for this but here we go.

I honestly think that, like a lot of other issues with humanity as a whole, this boils down to the fact that a lot more people are attracted to kids than they'll ever admit.

I see it the same way with rapists and abusers. No one's gonna openly talk about being like that so they don't get caught but the fact that it's so common tells me it's not out of character to be done. Especially looking at history and how commonplace it was for grown adults to marry underage kids or sell them into sexual slavery.

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Holytimes 8 points 5 days ago

There is literally a laundry list of legitimate disorders that have the side effects of stunted sexual age preference. Some are a byproduct of mental disorders that leave people stunted as children themselves mentally. While others are simple hormonal issues and can show up in almost anyone.

The thing is in almost all cases of these it's just a widened or stunted prefence nothing more or less. Its been shown take fake cp see hentai/furry art etc actually makes an extremely efficient management outlet and reduces harm from this group almost entirely.

The majority of child rape cases do not come from that group. Some do for sure, but it's very frequently someone with a mental disorder and they fully do not understand or only partially understand what they are doing is wrong.

The large chunk of legitimate cases are from those without documented disorders related to sexual preference disorders. They tend to other issues such as anger management problems, substance abuse, sociopathic or psychopathic issues.

Which is why it's seen a lot in the rich and power who frequently have sociopathic issues. ASPD is just a general problem in this topic.

And most study has found that fake cp has little to no effect as an effective outlet and management source.

Which is where a lot of the problems come from. You have one group who legitimately can solve the problem with a fake alternative and one that can't.

The one that can't in turn is the most violent and physically abusive prone to have the means and power to act on impulsive.

This is a awful and disgusting topic to most and most just want to lump it all into one hole and basically kill them all.

And while I don't disagree the sociopathic nut jobs who can rationally understand what they are doing is wrong. Should be thrown in a pit to die.

We keep causing more harm than needed trying to fix the problem with a sledgehammer.

Its a complex and nuanced issue, and the research on the topic struggles to get any amount of funding since no one wants their name attached to it. And what does get published tends to get buried and locked away hard. Again cause no one wants to be attached to it.

Its fucked on every front

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