You feared socialism

5 days ago by GodlessCommie to c/latestagecapitalism

ceenote 43 points 5 days ago

I agree that socialism has been vilified, but not a single person was told wanting a better world makes you weak. They were told that a better world is impossible, that socialism would make people lazy, that the purges were a communist policy (and that there's no difference between communism and socialism).

Some anti-left people will never come round, but some will, and we need numbers. Talking down to them won't bring anyone around.

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kreskin 1 point 4 days ago

ok we wont talk down to them but we can still slap them hard on the back of the head a lot right? or rub their faces in the shit of their outcomes.. just do it quietly?

/s yeah, I agree with you. Its counterproductive.

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Maddier1993 -3 points 5 days ago

I feel like the only people purged were the capitalist bootlickers and robber barons. It's always a cooked up story when "Doctors, Teachers, and Businessmen" were purged because you know it was just the last category that felt oppressed even at the slightest course-correction from their vile system.

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ceenote 3 points 5 days ago

Defending Stalin will not bring anyone around, either.

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FlyingCircus 1 point 5 days ago

Ironic how you call out how socialism and communism have been misrepresented and lied about, then immediately leap to defend the capitalist narrative around socialist leaders.

I don’t blame you though, our society has done a fantastic job of making up a narrative that socialists are the same as fascists, and conditioning people to ostracize anyone who questions that narrative, even though the actual historical evidence does not support it.

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BeardededSquidward 11 points 5 days ago

The best PR for socialism is when they say something that's good and needed is socialism. Universal healthcare? Socialism. Worker's rights? Socialism. Taxing billionaires? Socialism. They make it sound more appealing than the shit hell we've got going on now.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 1 point 4 days ago

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Tiger666 2 points 4 days ago

He was the furthest thing from being a socialist. Fuck FDR and his billionaire friends. We are where we are because of him and all other presidents after him.

Downvoting me because of my comment shows how extremely ignorant you are to what happened in the 1930s in the US.

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Sciaphobia 2 points 4 days ago

You don't have down votes. Is the second half a preemptive strike?

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Omnipitaph 9 points 5 days ago

After stumbling upon hundreds of AI scripted videos, this cadence of speech drives me fucking crazy. I hope this person naturally speaks like this, and that the post wasn't created by AI.

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Ardyssian 8 points 5 days ago

"And now?"

"The cruelest part isn't..., but ...."

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RememberTheApollo_ 2 points 5 days ago

Pretty meh punchline. Don’t know if it’s AI, but to leap to the person’t wishlist being a yacht and backpay from a normal job seems a stretch.

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kreskin 1 point 4 days ago

Maintaining a boat (or yacht, even worse) is miserable and endless work and expense.

Unless you have people to handle that for you I wouldn't recommend it to anyone as a life goal. Breeding and keeping a pet velociraptor is a smarter goal than aspiring to own a boat.

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BarneyPiccolo 1 point 4 days ago

It's been a lifetime policy of mine to avoid owning a boat, but to tell any friend who is considering buying one that it's an amazing idea.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 1 point 4 days ago

best 2 days of a boat owner's life:

the day he buys the boat
the day he sells it.

boat: a hole in the water you dump money into..

.

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MrOtingocni 7 points 5 days ago

Thanks, chatGPT!

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rocci 6 points 5 days ago

Frankly, has that "this is what you get since you voted for Trump" vibe - this is the exact moment we need to bring these people into the fold, not mock and further alienate them.

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Maddier1993 10 points 5 days ago

You expect the people who have been oppressed, labelled terrorists, and silenced to "bring these people into the fold"; The same assholes who bootlick and enable powerful cunts to propagate their vile ways as the only way that works?

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webhead 2 points 5 days ago

Yes. Do you want to get shit done or do you just want to feel superior to others? At a certain point you just have to be practical and use what you can. You can be mad about it, but pushing people away when they're trying to at least turn away from the really bad shit is just petty and unhelpful. I don't like that people voted for Trump, but if they're willing to go against that now, I'll take what I can get. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Brkdncr 4 points 5 days ago

They’re goners. Can’t bring them back. They vote against their best interests.

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ClassStruggle 1 point 5 days ago

Are their best interest socialist or Democrat

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Brkdncr 7 points 5 days ago

I would take either if it moved the needle in the correct direction.

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ClassStruggle 2 points 5 days ago

Democrats will move the needle to the right

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ClassStruggle 3 points 5 days ago

The message is bipartisan

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SnarkoPolo 5 points 4 days ago

It's called false consciousness. That laid off desk monkey will continue to blame "socialism" while licking billionaire boot.

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BigDiction 4 points 4 days ago

While you orgied around in capitalism, I studied the blade of sustainable economics.

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Mulligrubs 3 points 4 days ago

Maybe a couple of generations ago, but now? I think only the rich would claim this, but they know it's tripe, too.

Some things work better than others, we can see it in real time now.

The benefits of socialized medicine are obvious, and we have 50 years of data. It's certainly competitive and of benefit.

Is it better than capitalism in every way? Depends on what, I'm not smart enough to know all of the details.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 10 points 4 days ago

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Ioughttamow 1 point 5 days ago

I think it’s just a few more inches of rock wall away, just gotta keep chopping. Memes don’t lie

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dandi8 0 points 5 days ago

Why would you use AI to generate this text, tho?

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Maddier1993 0 points 5 days ago

Why do you assume it's AI generated, tho?

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dandi8 4 points 5 days ago

"it's not x, it's y", forcing the rule of 3 into every paragraph, flowery language that doesn't add anything or make much sense (e.g.,"it's the silence in your chest where the certainty used to be") and other tells that this was AI generated. Do you not notice that this is not how humans speak?

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Jiggs 3 points 5 days ago

I recall one of the first things being taught in psychology "You are not the norm. What is normal for you, doesnt have to be normal for others."

It can be how humans speak and it absolutely is how I often speak.

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MrOtingocni 3 points 5 days ago

Meh, I used to use almost all the same methods, including the em dashes, ending conclusions with a mic drop statement, etc., but LLMs are so specifically patterned that you can spot it a mile away. ChatGPT talks like people, people do not talk like chatGPT.

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dandi8 1 point 5 days ago

Sure, I could be wrong.

At the same time, people on the internet don't seem to be talking this way. Every AI-generated response I have ever gotten looks exactly like that, though.

I'm not basing my assumption on how I talk so the psychology lesson doesn't quite apply.

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svcg 2 points 4 days ago

The rule of three and “it’s not x, it’s y” might not be how humans typically speak, but it is how humans write. Some of us have even been known to use the Oxford comma. That's why AI reproduces it.

(Seriously, you should use the Oxford comma. That shit decides legal cases.)

"It’s the silence in your chest where the certainty used to be" does sound like AI bullshit, though.

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Thunderbird4 1 point 5 days ago

I don’t think most LLMs would use “spreadsheeted” as a verb.

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dandi8 3 points 5 days ago

That's exactly the kind of language I would expect it to use.

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Fizz -9 points 5 days ago

Socialism still requires you to work? Also requires you to work harder than you currently do because your wealth is directly tied to your job. If your business goes under you lose far more than a job.

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