Sources:
https://ourworldindata.org/...
If we wanted death and destruction we would just support the status quo
4 days ago by A404 to c/leftymemes
FireRetardant 27 points 4 days ago
I was gonna say that seemed a little extreme. Rivers are defintely degrading, are having some species go extinct, and other serious problems but life is still quite persistent. Even extremely damaged ecosystems can bounce back relatively quickly with the proper care.
NateNate60 14 points 4 days ago
During the (biologically) short two years of the COVID-19 pandemic when everyone was inside and factories were shut down, a lot of rivers and other natural ecosystems pretty much recovered to near pre-industrial health. Even the River Ganges started clearing up if I remember correctly.
vivalapivo 1 point 4 days ago
Factories didn't work, Suez was blocked. We did alright
ironycanal 1 point 3 days ago
Fucking commies, always lying about everything. Can't fucking trust em. Not like BP.
NateNate60 15 points 4 days ago
Genuinely who has characterised environmental policies as "just wanting chaos"? I have never heard anyone of significant note say that.
NaibofTabr 12 points 4 days ago
Not the policies, but certainly activists like Greta Thunberg have been characterized as angry extremists (by people who are financially interested in maintaining the status quo).
NateNate60 -7 points 4 days ago
With Thunberg in particular, while I agree broadly with her on pretty much all of her policy stances, I can't help but also think that a lot of what she does is performative and doesn't really accomplish much on a practical level. I'm not stupid enough to think the goal is chaos but I think I understand how some people could be led to think that.
NateNate60 2 points 3 days ago
I am informed. I can see her activities. They range from very productive performatism to useless but mostly inert lip service.
For example her Gaza aid ship stunt I believe falls in the category of "very productive performatism". Obviously she is a kind of international political celebrity, and by forcing Israeli authorities to either arrest her (and cause a diplomatic incident) or allow a hole in their Gaza blockade, she's forcing the issue in a way that is both a good use of her infamy and also disproportionately impactful.
tae_glas 7 points 4 days ago
it might be about characterising anarchists as "just wanting chaos", because a lot of people use anarchy and chaos as synonyms..?
i'm not certain, the "you guys" in the picture could be referring to someone else entirely and not anarchists at all!
Objection 4 points 4 days ago
Dealing with those environmental problems requires breaking the corporate power the profits from and perpetuates those problems, and breaking corporate power does get characterized as "just wanting chaos" by plenty of people.
NateNate60 1 point 4 days ago
Do you have an example? I haven't even seen the Washington Post characterise it that way. Most opponents just talk about how these policies will "destroy the competitiveness of our industry" or "raise prices for consumers".
vivalapivo 10 points 4 days ago
Also rainwater is no longer drinkable everywhere.
Guess a small price to pay for a few individuals to please their ego
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That source doesn't say that 80% of rivers do not support life anymore. It says that 78.8% of rivers in the dataset are showing signs of deoxygenation.
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