Zelenskyy: Nawrocki is doing what Orbán did. This will end badly

a day ago by CityPop to c/world

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said that Polish President Karol Nawrocki escalated the situation surrounding the revocation of his Order of the White Eagle because of internal political struggles. The president also revealed that at their first meeting, Nawrocki gave him a book about the Volyn tragedy.
homesweethomeMrL 19 points a day ago

I don’t like it at all.

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Seimhe 22 points a day ago

I've read a short article about it but it seems that without relevant historical knowledge it's hard to determine. My initial impression is that the Polish president is purposely making a spectacle of the issue and rage baiting his population, and that the main beneficiary is Putin.

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someguy3 26 points a day ago

Tensions between Warsaw and Kyiv have been high for days following Zelensky's decision to name a military unit after the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), a World War II militia that Warsaw accuses of participating in massacres of Poles.

That's better context.

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Jessicat 5 points a day ago

Thank you for a little background. The story keeps going through the news cycle and I was unclear on what the fundamental problem was.

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Big_Boss_77 3 points a day ago

Think he's gunning for some of that Orbán oligarch money?

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oce 9 points a day ago

Any good rational article explaining why Zelenskyy decided to use that name related to a Polish massacre? My understanding is that he can't be picky with his allies in times of war so he made some honorific gift to the far-right to keep/get their support.

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Zedstrian 8 points a day ago

The following paragraph from this Le Monde article seems to explain their reasoning:

Zelensky's changing stance on these memory issues comes as the Kremlin's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 has profoundly altered Ukrainians' relationship with their history. The authorities are now working to create a national pantheon to honor multiple figures of Ukrainian nationalism spanning centuries. Zelensky thus finds himself in a delicate position, caught between the risk of not meeting the demands of a narrative centered on resisting Moscow and the international repercussions of such memory policies.

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LibertyLizard 7 points a day ago

Nationalism is poison. They may feel at the moment it's less dangerous than the Russian invasion but I am not so sure.

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Hacksaw 4 points 19 hours ago

Because the unit fought both Nazis and Soviets to try to carve out an independent Ukraine. The attack on the poles wasn't the "main" thing they did. It was also an insurgency unit not a regular unit so it's hard to treat them as one thing. The only people who consider it the main thing are the Poles.

Here is the Polish deputy Science minister on the matter and probably one of the few rational voices in the debate

It was a unit that — regardless of what you say about the Volhynia massacre — fought for Ukraine’s independence,” Szeptycki said in a radio interview, and compared the UPA to Poland’s anti-communist guerrillas after the end of World War II.

https://www.politico.eu/...

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