People speak too easily with a sadistic glee when the subject is extreme weather and climate change, here.

21 hours ago by nerv to c/unpopularopinion

It is so easy to pick up the callous indifference and the nihilism in those threads, the borderline eagerness to see the demise of the human species.

These are the persons I imagine as being extremely vocal - here - but quiet and subdued on the real world. The type of person that violently accuses others of doing everything wrong while doing nothing themselves. No matter how small.

These are the individuals that almost place bets on when a given catastrophic event might occur. Next to it, the sadistic dead end speech on how it is deserved because a given generation was like this or that and there is no change to be made or achieved because of crooked politians or moguls.

Are you entertained?

Strider 14 points 21 hours ago

I think your judgement may be misplaced in parts.

We're hurting. A lot. And a lot of us have given much to try to avoid the situation we are in now.

Yet there are forces and trends spitting in our face and even accelerating this (eg AI > environment) by a few. It's easy to get disheartened and frustrated.

Enduring the pain for so long and with foreseeable results might want some to wish for the pain to end, even if that's wishing for a catastrophe to finally arrive instead of going on like this.

Just my 2c

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nerv 3 points 21 hours ago

I respect that feeling but quitting is not an option, is it? The same with putting down those trying to make a difference, no matter how small.

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Strider 12 points 20 hours ago

Quitting for self preservation is always an option and a very human behavior.

Not trying to convince you here. Just pointing out that others might see things very different than you and their perspective is as valid as yours.

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Engywuck 7 points 19 hours ago

This place is full of people who are "always right" and consider themselves exemplary. I hardly believe they would be able to be so aggressively vocal in real life. Just block them and go on with your life.

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yesman 4 points 15 hours ago

Humor is a common coping mechanism people use to deal with horrible truths. Global warming is not a tone issue.

And it's ironic to give a scolding lecture about how people are acting superior.

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Drusas 1 point 3 hours ago

There should be no comma in that title.

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HubertManne 1 point 13 hours ago

people react in different ways. im a doomer and always see doomers labeled as giving up but most I know are like me and will do everything they can to not be a part of it as much as possible. I want to be the guy bailing water as we sink not the one drilling holes.

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nerv 1 point 12 hours ago

That's not a doomer in my understanding. The doomer is the person that does not care, simply put; they're the guys rooting for disgrace and misery, waiting for the "I told you so" moment. You're more of an prepared pessimist.

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HubertManne 2 points 12 hours ago

no doomers are folks that realize that even if we did the best we could reasonably could we are not stopping global warming and even if we did somehow stop it with some sci fi technology it won't stop all the environmental issues that are equally bad. Its knowing there is no way out but the reaction to that knowledge is different from person to person. Its not at all uncommon for a doomer to have the view that they are going to contribute to it all as least as possible until they hit the grave. Going out closer to saint than sinner.

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Paragone 1 point 11 hours ago

orthagonal to that,

is the blunt fact that universe will enforce the Great Filter,

and humankind could learn willingly which humankind won't .. or humankind can learn unwillingly quite-possibly through outright species-extinction, later this century.

This isn't a decision which will obey our ignoring: either neatly-all-of-us die, xor all-of-us die, this century.

Addiction ( to ignoring/denying, in this case, to ideologies in many cases, etc ) is real, and values its habit more than it values future-life.

How does one crack the ignoring of the US left, who insist that their future-election will save them, while ICE has now got a national crematoriums network for eradicating problem people, just as the previous reich did??

How does one crack addiction's ignoring/"knowing", anywhere??

Bitterness becomes .. natural.

Humankind won't know, and the needless waste-of-whole-planet will begin once the dictatorship-tippingpoint is crossed, by Trump, later in 2026, this year.

🙏

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nerv 2 points 8 hours ago

Try again but now making a genuine effort to not sound cryptic and obtuse.

Words spoken without the intention to be clearly understood by the majority listening are just empty sounds formed by warmed air escaping ones mouth.

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notsosure -1 points 21 hours ago

Spot on. Polls across the globe show that a majority of humanity is concerned about climate change. The end result, which may well be the death of our species, is hardly spoken about, but is becoming more and more a realistic outcome. In that light, one would expect people to make a positive contribution, either by helping to slow down global warming or through showing compassion towards other people. The opposite is happening (and not just on Lemmy): e.g. borders are closed to keep (climate) migrants out, people insist on protecting their own wealth… and at the same time many seem to wish for an apocalyptic scenario. Hey folks, if the going gets tough, the tough get going! Make a positive change. Gloom and doom never did any good.

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Iconoclast 1 point 15 hours ago

The end result, which may well be the death of our species, is hardly spoken about

There's a good reason for that: no legitimate climate model predicts that outcome. I don't understand where that existential angst is coming from when no credible climate scientist is claiming it'll lead to human extinction. The threat is millions of excess deaths - not the end of the human race. The IPCC reports don't even mention human extinction as a plausible outcome. That terminology is almost entirely absent from actual scientific assessment.

The worst-case scenario is already really bad. Why do we need to pretend it's even worse?

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notsosure 1 point 14 hours ago

Your article contradicts itself: “If I had to rank climate change as an existential risk to humanity, it would be below a lot of the other threats that are heavy on people's minds,” says Schlosser. “Nuclear war, global pandemics: as an existential risk these are far greater than climate change.” Ah, but alas, the likelihood of nuclear war, global pandemics increases tremendously because of climate collapse. We’re on track for +2.5°C to +2.9°C by 2100 under current policies; this is a tremendous temperature increase in record time, very similar to the ones that lead to mass extinctions in the past. There is a distinct risk that humanity will kill itself (there are sufficient scientific publications that highlight this). I’m not particularly bothered by it, as I will be dead by then, and life on Earth will continue as always, but I do see it as a positive motivation to limit human suffering as much as possible.

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