ViatorOmnium 45 points 7 hours ago

LLMs are not sentient, but this gimmick doesn't prove that.

There's nothing to indicate the human brain can't be implemented in a Turing machine too.

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luthis 3 points 5 hours ago

I don't think that is the case.

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Valmond -11 points 7 hours ago

Except ... consciousness!

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spittingimage 12 points 5 hours ago

Which you can precisely define, right?

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eleijeep 32 points 7 hours ago

By the same logic, you could prove that we are not sentient.

Engineers need to stop trying to do the job of philosophers. LLMs are not sentient, but that tells us nothing about what gives rise to sentience or whether silicon is a substrate that could host a sentient consciousness.

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Krill 35 points 7 hours ago

I'm still not convinced most people I speak to at work are sentient.

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credo 2 points 4 hours ago

They are probably sentient. Now sapience.. is another issue altogether.

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njordomir 4 points 7 hours ago

I majored in Philosophy. Though I wouldn't want to be an AI ethics consultant for one of these big companies because I imagine that whatever I write down would have to preserve profits (first and foremost) and then gaslight everyone into thinking it's all perfectly ethical and okay and no one (including mother earth) is being harmed in the process.

You don't need an ethicist if you don't have ethics! /s

I just wish we could put this dumb sentient AI stuff to bed for now. Congrats, you guys built the most powerful (and wasteful) auto-complete. It's not sentient and your marketing doesn't have to be hyperbolic lies.

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Valmond 1 point 7 hours ago

Exactly!

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SpaceNoodle 1 point 7 hours ago

Can you build a human from goats in AOE2?

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eleijeep 3 points 7 hours ago

An average human? No. A lemmy.world user? Yes.

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Zarobi 1 point 2 hours ago

Are we discriminating against instances now? Is this a thing?

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SpaceNoodle 0 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, fuck those idiots for joining when it was the only instance accepting new members

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speculate7383 2 points an hour ago

Haha, I'm still trying to decide if the upvotes and downvotes here are going after the sarcasm or the dumb literal take. Snort

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webghost0101 1 point 5 hours ago

I have no knowledge of this drama or hard feelings for your instance in either direction.

But was that ever a thing? I joined a month after you and there where options plenty.

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nymnympseudonym 1 point 5 hours ago

For the record, at least one Nobel Prize winner disagrees about LLM sentience

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdziSLYzHw

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Canadian_Cabinet 19 points 7 hours ago

The researcher didn't make an LLM, he made a NAND gate, and in theory that could be expanded into an LLM

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SpaceNoodle 7 points 7 hours ago

All computers are just a minimum of three layers of NAND gates

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Aatube 4 points 6 hours ago

he made more than a NAND gate. he created a 1-bit perceptron and a perceptron-training circuit after figuring out how to make a NAND gate

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Semicolon 14 points 6 hours ago

"Man built brain out of simple particles, proving brains are not sentient."

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Junkernaught 6 points 7 hours ago

HOLY SHIT, AGE OF EMPIRES II IS SENTIENT

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ceenote 1 point 6 hours ago

Lord Henry Percy: Thou art human, with soul and wit! I am naught but clockwork!

Lord Henry Percy: No wonder thou wert victorious! I shall abdicate.

Lord Henry Percy has resigned.

The moderate difficulty computer I just beat disagrees.

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Franconian_Nomad 5 points 7 hours ago

To be fair, humans anthropomorphising everything, of course they do that with software that can fucking talk to them.

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IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds 4 points 6 hours ago

It is incredible how we forgotten the whole point of the Turning test the moment it became relevant rather than some abstract though experiment.

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unpossum 1 point 7 hours ago

John Searle is the GOAT?

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