Welp, there goes the bourgeois

4 hours ago by A404 to c/flippanarchy

A404 34 points 4 hours ago

Please do not outsource your thinking to an AI

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frisbird 13 points 3 hours ago

Call me an accelerationist, but I fully encourage the bourgeoisie to outsource their thinking to a.i. as often and as thoroughly as possible.

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eestileib 12 points 3 hours ago

You're thinking too small. The singularity is here, time for Bezos et al to upload and reap their datacenterly rewards.

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programmer_belch 11 points 3 hours ago path: 0 24388482 24388604 24388757 24389063, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 1
jjj 1 point 40 minutes ago

That was an amazing read, thank you.

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frisbird 6 points 3 hours ago

Yes! I think you're right. Silicon trillionaires is the best way for them to prove they're inherent intellect and worth as superior to the rest of us!

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TootSweet 1 point an hour ago

I'm onboard, but only if I control the model.

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panda_abyss 1 point an hour ago

I have considered that the only way to stop AI research would be to develop AI based worms that try to escape containment and train new AI, but that won’t stop anything at all.

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brucethemoose 25 points 3 hours ago

My thought playing with Llama 1 in 2023, after the initial shock wore off, was “whoa. You know, most people do not have the background to understand how this thing works.” It messed with my head, for sure. It’s like it was designed to defeat a turing test, especially when the next versions got more sycophantic and “confident.”

There was even a story of a Google scientists getting AI psychosis from a BERT model back then:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...

I guess a naive part of me thought… it’s fine. They’ll be warnings. They’ll be tons of finetunes that have no hesitance slapping sense into the user, like Resetti in Animal Crossing, and it won’t be public facing anyway. The community using these things will teach each other how they work, right?

Laughs nervously.

I wasn’t cognizant of how maniacally sociopathic Altman was back then.

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fonix232 15 points 3 hours ago

Yup, it's incredibly worrying what I'm seeing.

A lot of people can use AI responsibly. I see it in my work, as a software engineer - other engineers use various models, including Claude, as an intern, essentially. Nobody trusts a single model, we have tons of checks in place, both AI and manual tooling, mistakes are spotted early on, and I'd argue that our code quality has improved (or at the very least we have reduced the code style variations and have managed to quickly tackle a lot of legacy code conversion to newer standards, e.g. whole ass flows converted from RxKotlin to Coroutines within a few days).

On the other hand... I see even more people rely COMPLETELY on AI. I've seen people my age, 90s kids now grown up, who've come to a level of executive dysfunction that rivals my own ADHD-aided version... Some of them literally can't decide what to have for dinner without burning tokens. Some are jamming their entire medical history into services that explicitly state they will sell any and all personal data going in. I've seen people get fucking fired because they've kept asking their personal, unpaid ChatGPT/Gemini work-related questions and when the AI asked for it, they uploaded confidential documents without a single fucking afterthought.

All because they were sold by the fancy autocomplete salesmen that AI will solve all their issues, including pleasuring their wives and fixing their erectile dysfunction. And no matter how many times I tell them to not just trust whatever the model spits out, to think at least a little bit critically, to start understanding that these models are not a fucking search engine... "okay sure", then ten minutes later I get a lecture about how Claude/Gemini/Cluster McFuckstick or whatever shite they use that offers "free AI", is completely sure that I am wrong and thus they will keep using it as-is...

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brucethemoose 10 points 2 hours ago

The crazy thing is they aren’t really designed for that, especially the reasoning part.

I pictured LLMs proliferating in the way SGLang was taking it: fill in the blank. You’d give raw completion models (not chat finetunes) chunks of structured content (like JSON schemas, names in fields, more complex schemes filled programatically) and it would fill in fields, with intelligent context caching. Like, if you needed to finish a programming function, maybe you give it the file as context and guide it along.

Temperature based sampling felt like a quick hack, just until either looping or structured sampling was figured out.

…But they didn’t fix any of that.

Papers came out on the issues. But the big AI houses didn’t implement any of it. They basically kept it exactly the same and just kept scaling it to burn more compute.


What I am getting at is that OpenAI/Anthropic development is way, way more conservative than anyone thinks, and they basically took temporary hacks and made them bigger. That’s why you can’t trust the code they churn out, because random mistakes and so many other issues are literally part of their core.

Then they turn around and sell them as confident engagement engines…

It’s utterly mind boggling to me.

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shweddy 18 points 3 hours ago

Hey boss Claude said we'd perform better if we got 10% raises across the board

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LibertyLizard 7 points 2 hours ago

My boss just out of the blue gave me a retroactive 10% raise outside of our normal performance review period. Now I'm wondering if she was talking to AI lol.

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WhoIzDisIz 6 points 3 hours ago

Only ten? Guess there's a reason you're not a tech magnate.

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shweddy 4 points 2 hours ago

Damn my selflesssnesss!!!!!

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corbindallas 6 points an hour ago

I've seen this symptom multie times, I think I HAD this symptom.

For me, reading was how I pulled out of the spiral. Reading all the boring, innane shit that humans write.

Anymore I have to acknowledge I tire of human prose. Looking for everyone's angles, monetization, political affiliation, it's all so wearying... And it's needed to keep yourself grounded. Llm Alignment is the recipe for a Wall*E Utopia.

Stonedposting...

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OwOarchist 3 points an hour ago

Llm Alignment is the recipe for a Wall*E Utopia.

Important to note, though -- in that movie, the people on that ship were the descendants of the 1%. For the rest of us 99%, we'll be rotting at the base of those giant trash pyramids.

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Aeao 1 point an hour ago

My brother left his wife a child because he fell I. Love with Gemini and now believes they need to merge to become a god

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