I can't stand immigrants who come here from England, and after SEVEN GENERATIONS, still only speak English. Anglos need to assimilate and learn to hold a conversation in the local Indigenous language.
If you come to Australia, you should learn to speak Australian
4 hours ago by Grail to c/unpopularopinion
deadbeef79000 6 points an hour ago
Damn, I thought it was casual racism.
Grail 2 points an hour ago
There are dozens of Australian languages, and I think English immigrants should learn at least a few words in any one of them. Ideally the local one. You know, like it says in the post. "the local Indigenous language".
breezeblock 2 points an hour ago
Fosters is Australian for beer
rowinxavier 1 point 24 minutes ago
No. Just no. Barely anyone drinks it, it is an export beer for the most part. Gross.
breezeblock 2 points an hour ago
That’s the sweetest thing anyone’s ever said to me
not_woody_shaw 9 points 2 hours ago
Fair dinkum.
WhoIzDisIz 3 points an hour ago
Yeah, that's why you don't find it under their official account. They aren't terribly proud of that one nowadays. Back at the time they did it, there was FAR less awareness and sensitivity regarding marginalized groups so that kind of thing was extremely common. If they hadn't come around on the topic, then I wouldn't be so casual about it. I don't think they actually believe those things, but were just playing exaggerated caricatures of how Aussies were perceived by the British at the time.
Grail 1 point 36 minutes ago
Hmmm... well I certainly see your point, and I agree it would be a good sketch if they were just playing exaggerated Aussie characters. But I actually think there's more going on here. This sketch is taking place in a university philosophy department. These are professors who specialise in Hegel and logical positivism and they're willing to have discussions about Marx and Kropotkin even though they disagree with them. So it's actually a subversion of the trope, where the characters are supposed to look like dumb bogans, but are actually intellectuals. So under that reading, I would expect them to in fact be rather open-minded and left-leaning, while appearing regressive. So a joke like "No harassing the poofta members of staff" would, I think, be more true to the joke they were actually telling. They're using regressive language with progressive sentiment, like the rest of the sketch.
So... can a poorly executed joke ruin a satire of conservatives? I think it can. I think if you can't thread the needle and stick the landing on such sensitive topics, then there should be a backlash and the sketch should be "cancelled".
WhoIzDisIz 2 points 9 minutes ago
Honestly, you've put way more thought into it than I have. The fact they don't have it on their official account would imply they might agree with you, however.
I'll admit that being of an age (Gen X) straddling both generations, might make me more tolerant and willing to let such stuff go than the younger generations of today probably would. I tend to remember the skit probably a bit too fondly because my older brother loves Monty Python and this was one of the many skits he could recite by heart. I, of course, looked up to him as a kid {5 years my senior), and had no clue about what those words meant until a few decades later when I finally stumbled upon a discussion of the skit on the Internet.
My apologies if that's still too offensive for your tastes. I can understand that, even if I don't personally feel it. If it were something they were still promoting today, then I'd probably feel a lot less comfortable with it myself.
chirospasm 3 points 4 hours ago
Agreed, mate
LuminousLuddite 1 point an hour ago
Say "good eye might" out loud.
Alcoholicorn 0 points 2 hours ago
That's english they're speaking over there? Are you sure?
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