Should you DeGoogle your smartphone?

3 months ago by Sunshine to c/linuxphones

In this video, I discuss the experience of using a degoogled phone, both from the AOSP and Linux side of things. Relevant Links LineageOS: https://lineageos.org/ GrapheneOS: https://grapheneos.org/...

The experience of using a degoogled phone, both from the AOSP and Linux side of things.

I had to update to description since people kept thinking that I made the video.

Sunshine 35 points 3 months ago

Great video to introduce new folks into the topic!

8:58 lemmy spotted.

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solxix -23 points 3 months ago

Did you forget to switch accounts?

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Sunshine 23 points 3 months ago

Nah, I thought it would please the 9/10 upvoters on this post who are lemmings to be represented in the video.

This the third pedantic comment I received today.

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solxix 16 points 3 months ago

My bad, I was making a joke because it looked like a comment that someone else would make. I didn't mean for it to be taken negatively.

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mrnngglry 16 points 3 months ago

Nah, you’re right. It did seem that way.

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fizzle 7 points 3 months ago

There's an Australian politician that commented on their own post. "Fantastic, great move, well done Angus".

He's now the leader of what was a major political party, not so much anymore.

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Sunshine 8 points 3 months ago

I wasn’t the one who made the video..

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kepix 30 points 3 months ago

you have not answered the video title question. the answer is not yes, the answer is HOW.

  • also lineage gapps is not treated as system apps. you can disable them in the app list.
  • you havent talked about the endless struggle of spoofing
  • you havent talked about eos being just a glorified and outdated microg lineage
  • you havent talked about where people can ask about their ticket, banking, gov app compatibility, cause this is the most important thing.
  • ypu did not talk about debloat without changing from stock, using custom dns stuff

sorry, but this is even far from the tip of the iceberg. also why would you put black logos in front of a black background...

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valar 23 points 3 months ago

How:

  1. Get a pixel (or soon a Motorola)
  2. Install GrapheneOS
  3. Everything just works
  4. Profit
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Sasquatch 8 points 3 months ago

paypal doesn't work.

Google wallet doesn't work

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bold_atlas 26 points 3 months ago

OK now I'm even more sold on getting GrapheneOS.

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valar 15 points 3 months ago

Google wallet is not something a "deGoogled" phone needs to worry about

I don't use PayPal much, but is there anything about it you can't just do in a web browser?

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naeap 9 points 3 months ago

Haven't tried Google wallet, but why should PayPal not work? I'm paying in my browser anyway

Haven't used PayPal much in the last..phew...2? years, but as I'm ordering in a browser and then get to PayPal or usually just done credit card screen, I didn't had any problems - besides PayPal changing rules like underwear and I'm a bit fed up with it

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Sasquatch 0 points 3 months ago

The app won't let you log in. Come to think of it, Same with the Wells Fargo app

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machine2918 3 points 3 months ago

Google Wallet is a huge part against switching for me, what are my options? I have issues getting Curve registration accepted due to unknown issues and have so far had no luck with their support..

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Madzielle 2 points 3 months ago

you type your card # in everytime?

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 1 point 3 months ago

Do other wallets work? The convenience of being able to pay when I've lost my wallet again again is what got me to do it in the first place.

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Sasquatch 3 points 3 months ago

I don't know of any others

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altphoto 1 point 3 months ago

Sold if you can't get YouTube to work.

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naeap 6 points 3 months ago

NewPipe & Co works on my current GrapheneOS

Edit: not sure if that now is an anti feature for you ;⁠-⁠)

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whatyousaidontwitter 2 points 3 months ago

But pixels are not sold in my country :(

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Sunshine 7 points 3 months ago

I didn’t make the video. It’s a quote from their description.

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TotalSonic 15 points 3 months ago

For those new to the process, the best general resource for instructions on how to unlock your phone’s bootloader and flash alternate AOSP ROM’s or non-Android OS’s is https://xdaforums.com/ Please note that not all carriers and oem’s allow you to unlock the bootloader though, so choose your device carefully for this.

You will also most likely need a PC (desktop or laptop) with adb & fastboot on it. These are apps used in the terminal, but you only need to copy and paste a few commands into them to use it.

If you have a Google Pixel then best option is Graphene - https://grapheneos.org/

For other devices you can use a “degoogled” Android ROM and get apps from the open source F-Droid app store - https://f-droid.org/ Some choices for this are: Lineage - https://lineageos.org/ crDroid - https://crdroid.net/ /e/os - https://e.foundation/e-os/ Iode - https://iode.tech/iodeos/

OR use a a true alternative mobile OS. Options for this are: Ubuntu Touch - https://www.ubuntu-touch.io/ Sailfish OS - https://sailfishos.org/ Mobian - https://mobian-project.org/ Postmarket OS - https://postmarketos.org/ Plasma Mobile - https://plasma-mobile.org/ Droidian - https://droidian.org/

You can also purchase devices with alternative OS’s already preinstalled from: Volla - https://volla.online/en/devices/ Jolla - https://jolla.com/ Fairphone - https://fairphone.com/ Murena - https://murena.com/ Furilabs - https://furilabs.com/ Brax - https://www.braxtech.net/

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vatlark 13 points 3 months ago

Yay peertube!

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Sunshine 3 points 3 months ago

It’s got 1% the views of the YouTube video with 11k

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decapitae 8 points 3 months ago

Why is a pixel able to 'de google'? Is, possibly, the hardware designed to do the snooping despite the OS? 🤔 Work harder to degoogle older phones!

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BCsven 14 points 3 months ago

You can degoogle other phones, but the GrapheneOS chose the Pixel because of the security provided by the hardware

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mastod0n 5 points 3 months ago

If you have evidencefor this claim I would love to read it

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decapitae 6 points 3 months ago

No, sadly, just speculation as to why there seems to be an OS to get away from a company, but it's specifically for that companies phone and doesn't convey to different manufacturers phones- an oddity to me

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sulgoth 3 points 3 months ago

Easier to support an OS when you only have like 4 devices to deal with.

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swelter_spark 6 points 3 months ago

Are there Linux phones that need to be deGoogled?

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ArmchairAce1944 4 points 3 months ago

I have GrapheneOS. It is sandboxed.

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Hxrmit 1 point 3 months ago

Do not mention Ubuntu or E/os

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vatlark 6 points 3 months ago

I just watched it, and it mentions ubuntu touch and /e/os.

Edit: oh you are saying people shouldn't mention those?

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Tore 5 points 3 months ago

Why not mention Ubuntu or e/Os? I've used both on my Fairphone 3+.

Used Ubuntu Touch for years and I've got e/OS installed right now.

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Hxrmit 3 points 3 months ago

Both are backed by corporations. E/OS also relies on hidden google services, it is also a more bloated lineageOS having worse security than EOL grapheneOS.

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leftascenter 10 points 3 months ago

AFAIK ubports has split from Ubuntu in the form of a German foundation.

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Hxrmit -1 points 3 months ago

Canonical, a UK-based software company mantains it though, the snap packages are also proprietary

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TotalSonic 7 points 3 months ago

in the case of Ubuntu Touch this simply is not true. Canonical stopped maintaining the code for it in 2017, and since then it has been overseen by the non-profit foundation UBports, which has a few core developers that depend on contributions from a volunteer community as well. Yes, it uses an Ubuntu base and some of the Ubuntu repositories (as do many other Linux distros), and it has an agreement with Canonical to be able to use the name and logos for Ubuntu for no charge, but is otherwise completely independent of Canonical. https://ubports.com/ (posting this from a Poco X3 NFC running Ubuntu Touch 24.04.2)

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maam 3 points 3 months ago

Ubuntu Touch is ran by the UBports Foundation after Canonical gave up on it.

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