That many people owning houses in [insert superior Western country] could never work
That post seems to be missing.
DankZedong 35 points 3 years ago
olgas_husband 29 points 3 years ago
cardboard houses in places with high frequency of tornadoes and other natural phenomenons.
ComradeSalad 11 points 3 years ago
Concrete and metal can not withstand the temperature fluctuations in the United States, that's why wood is used. If you take concrete from -10C to 40C, its going to crack and fail after a few years.
The problem is that the wood has gotten significantly more cheap over the years. But if you've seen actual wood houses, its absurd how they last centuries while concrete weathers and turns to dust, and metal corrodes.
Further, wood stands up just as well as brick and concrete do in the face of tornados and earthquakes... In that they don't. They all collapse. the foundations are made with brick or concrete but its cheaper to rebuild the top if its wood then another material. You're not saving your house if it gets hit with a tornado.
Also concrete requires steel supports in order to be load bearing, which is again very expensive. If you don't put structural steel in the concrete, then you've created a death trap.
ComradeSalad 6 points 3 years ago
That’s all true, but stones are also much harder to transport, weigh more, are harder to acquire then wood, and are significantly more expensive then wood. That’s why masonry is much more common in Europe as opposed to the US as Europe has plenty of quarries in close proximity to all its population centers while the United States does not.
On the other hand, much of Europe has extremely limited wood so people turned to stone.
It’s just basic supply and demand, and what’s easier and cheaper to access.
ComradeSalad 2 points 3 years ago
You would be surprised. The United States is the size of a continent and just the North East and North Midwest United Stated are larger then all of Europe minus Russia.
AmarkuntheGatherer 2 points 3 years ago
https://gisgeography.com/us-temperature-map/
The maps don't bear out a lot of places with that sort of a temperature variety. Even they it did, -10⁰C and 40⁰C are just outside the norm for many steppe climates (an example off the top of my head), and there are whole cities of concrete in steppe climate regions.
Wood lasting centuries is even less credible, since wood can't last decades. Buildings can last in a ship of theseus sense, but the wood itself breaks down for all manner of reasons.
ComradeSalad 4 points 3 years ago
Literally the first result on Google. Also for the concrete, I never said you can’t use it; I just said it’s a mess preferable material as it requires more maintenance.
I also never said the garbage plywood houses that they’re throwing up will last 100+ years. But I have seen many ancient wood frames in my life, and that is extremely common in the US.
DamarcusArt 15 points 3 years ago
Smells like a lack of Freedom to me!
bandarawan 3 points 3 years ago
What's your point?
olgas_husband 14 points 3 years ago
US has a lot of good terrain to build, unlike china that has a difficult terrain to build on.
i think his point is that usa can very easily provide housing for everyone but it chooses not to.
bandarawan 1 point 3 years ago
This post is not about homelessness, but home ownership.
olgas_husband 4 points 3 years ago
well, if u are homeless, perhaps we can infer that you don't own a house ¯_(ツ)_/¯
thanks for using Leebra!
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That's Chinese disinformation! And Lao disinformation! And Kazakh and Cuban and Vietnamese and... listen, Americans need to be fed a strict media diet or else they'll start having thoughts.
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