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schnokobaer 44 points 16 days ago
I'm pretty sure my country's then-leader was very interested but was fobbed off with a deal for cheap Russian gas, subsequently growing our industry almost fully dependent on that discounted energy. Great deal, Angela. Well done.
raspberriesareyummy -1 points 16 days ago
I hate to defend her but before the invasion of Ukraine by Russia (i.e. pre 2014), using Russian gas to soften the dependency on fascist-murica seemed like a good option.
Voroxpete 11 points 16 days ago
Trump was elected in 2016. Obama was still president in 2014. While the problems with American imperialism obviously go back a very, very long way, their overt slide into fascism had not begun in 2014. If you'd tried to talk about "American Fascism" pre-2016 people would have assumed you were a very specific kind of racist who is probably deeply concerned about FEMA for vague and implausible reasons.
schnokobaer 10 points 16 days ago
Meh. Germany had a good initial run of renewable energy expansion which was almost ground to a halt when this happened the first time around 2008 and Putin bought Merkel's rejection of a Ukrainian accession into NATO. It was already detrimental then if you had some foresight, and it was absolutely devastating the second time.
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