"Violence is never the answer" unless it is white people doing it

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/27603744

Send both of them every tank in existence.

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RiverRock 20 points 4 days ago

It gets messier when you remember that the current government of Ukraine is an ally of the Zionist entity and is providing air defense expertise to the perpetrators of the Gaza genocide, as well as participating in America's aggression towards Iran. So while I understand the instinct, the unfortunate blunt reality is that these two sides are diametrically opposed.

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NewDark -15 points 4 days ago

Do they have much of a choice while they're being invaded?

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RiverRock 21 points 4 days ago

Does that matter to the people the UKR military kills in Iran and helps kill in Palestine?

But no, the Ukranian people have not had a choice in anything since having their government surgically replaced in 2014, or for that matter since having their government illegally dissolved in 1991.

My point with this specific post, as an olive branch to people who may not be familiar with the communist position, is not "Ukraine bad" so much as "This is what eventually happens to every American 'ally' no matter what promises have been made to the contrary, and other countries had best take notice".

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audrbox -7 points 3 days ago

I don't understand why tankies can't make the logical step from "governments of the west don't care about any peoples' sovereignty (despite justifying their war efforts with claims that they do) because ultimately they just serve whatever keeps them in power" to "no governments care about any peoples' sovereignty because ultimately they just serve whatever keeps them in power"

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deathmetaldawgy 5 points 3 days ago

Because that's a kindergarten understanding of socialist/ML theory and politics in general

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audrbox -5 points 3 days ago

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RiverRock 4 points 2 days ago

Can you think of any non context-dependent dynamics?

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deathmetaldawgy 3 points 2 days ago

I don’t even know what you’re saying tbh. Context dependent dynamics? Power is bad and context is bad? Is that from some anarchist theory?

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