WARDOGS now confirmed with official Proton support (via Discord)

20 hours ago by mr_MADAFAKA to c/linux_gaming

femtek 43 points 16 hours ago

Man the anti Linux users in the discussion are so weird. Like why simp for windows? are they upset the couldn't get Linux running on their desktop?

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brucethemoose 5 points 13 hours ago

Maybe they think it will facilitate hacking?

Or maybe split development resources?

I’m not saying that’s true or even a rational argument, just trying to play devil’s advocate.

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dreadbeef 33 points 19 hours ago

so wine IS an emulator!

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ThunderComplex 18 points 17 hours ago

No you see it's only valve's specific patches in proton that turn wine from not an emulator to an emulator. This is why wine doesn't just accept proton's patches making it obsolete /s

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juipeltje 13 points 19 hours ago

And GNU is Unix!

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libewa 1 point 10 hours ago

Funnily enough, XNU (the macOS kernel) is actually UNIX.

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Sas 11 points 16 hours ago

You mean wie

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F04118F 6 points 14 hours ago

YAML is not just yet another markdown language

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brucethemoose 20 points 13 hours ago

I think the extremes on either side of this are nuts. Specifically:

  • Linux purists demanding a native executable.

  • Windows purists… just being difficult, I guess?

Official Proton support is an excellent, functional compromise. It’s extremely usable, and extremely practical for devs to maintain within their existing environment.

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woelkchen 13 points 13 hours ago

It's usable until it isn't. That's the problem with Wine/Proton. It's not a stable implementation of a well defined specification like Java. It's a reimplementation via reverse engineering of proprietary Win32, something that's buggy and sometimes changed between Windows updates by accident.

Update to a game compiled with a slightly newer version of Visual Studio, like it's happening all the time with live service games? Compatibility becomes a dice roll. Sure, the chance is high that compatibility is kept but it not 100%. Neither is Proton not breaking a game by accident. The big games are automatically checked by Valve but some weird indie game isn't.

And here comes the wonderful thing that's Steam Linux Runtime: containerized binary compatible runtimes of every other or so Debian release. All the issues about not being able to target Linux because of its ever changing nature have been fixed by Valve and yet for whatever reason Valve refuses to promote it towards developers.

They literally promote Win32+x86 emulation for Steam Frame development, a wearable platform where even the slightest stuttering can cause motion sickness and where battery optimization is paramount.

I hope Valve bring Lepton, their Android compatibility layer, to x86 Linux as well. Lepton is based directly on AOSP and not reverse engineering. I have higher hope for that.

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BananaIsABerry 6 points 12 hours ago

I would argue the difference is that they claim that it's officially supported through Proton, meaning they're likely to put effort into ensuring it continues to function through proton.

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brucethemoose 2 points 12 hours ago

+1. I have no argument with this.

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mnemonicmonkeys 3 points 7 hours ago

Official Proton support is an excellent, functional compromise.

Except it's not a compromise. 99% of games on Steam work on Proton without input from the devs. All they have to do to make it work on Proton is to not go out of their way to break it. At most, they probably have a single Linux system in the studio to run builds on just to make sure it works.

They're doing nothing in this regard and pretending they're doing something for brownie points. If you don't want to put in effort to make a separate Linux native version that's fine, but don't then turn around and claim that you're focussed on Linux support.

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Blaiz0r 17 points 20 hours ago

Nice, need more games like this playable on Linux

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Fizz 16 points 19 hours ago

They have to. Milsim players have a big linux playerbase.

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warmaster 9 points 19 hours ago

Wait. It's not arcadey like BF6?

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bigmamoth 12 points 19 hours ago

a between. More arcadey than milsim more sim than bf

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HerbGrower 7 points 17 hours ago

Honestly that is the kinda area that interests me. So far the main FPS games I like are the WW1 games like Isonzo and Enlisted in low rank games only - because high rank gives every rifleman a machine gun.

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Fizz 4 points 18 hours ago

It looks like squad(which is the halfway between arma and BF) without the suppression mechanic.

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Kazel 6 points 14 hours ago

we have to train for the great distro war

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HerbGrower 13 points 20 hours ago

Sounds kinda interesting. Fairly high system requirements but at least they do specify that gets you 60FPS.

Would probably wait for ProtonDB to fill out reports first.

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bigmamoth 10 points 19 hours ago

Day one support for a big fps

4 year ago we would have thought it to be impossible

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woelkchen 9 points 16 hours ago

"We support ARM hardware via x86 emulation"

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magiccupcake 10 points 15 hours ago

Obligatory "wine is not an emulator". So...

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ScottyTheEngineer 9 points 17 hours ago

Glad to see they're officially supporting linux as an option. Looks like my kind of FPS, especially love the part of the trailer where they explicitly say they AREN'T a battle royale XD.

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Tattorack 4 points 7 hours ago

Proton is a fork of Wine, and Wine Is Not Emulation!

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chalupapocalypse 3 points 16 hours ago

I keep seeing this game pop up, is this the new hot shit or just a flash in the pan streamer thing, I would love more old school battlefield shenanigans

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femtek 6 points 15 hours ago

I bought it for the Linux support as I like battlefield so I'll let you know as a non streamer after the weekend.

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arules -18 points 20 hours ago

Lossy needs to learn to write precisely:
⇒We only support the Proton emulation that may work in Linux.

Support for actual Linux has to include at the least an .ELF.

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