Ludicrous0251 14 points a month ago

Haven't used it, so can't say I endorse it, but this is the answer to your question.

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plenipotentprotogod 5 points a month ago

From their website:

After 12 months as a paying customer, you get a copy of the source code.

That's an interesting arrangement. I guess there's nothing wrong with it. But I'm not sure what the benefit is supposed to be since they presumably retain exclusive rights to use that code commercially.

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kossa 3 points a month ago

retain exclusive rights to use that code commercially.

Which would enable you to run your private instance, if you'd like.

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erebion 3 points a month ago

Is it a copy or access to their repo? If you just get a copy once, it does not really enable people to selfhost it.

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Ludicrous0251 3 points a month ago

Maybe, but if they're using paid APIs for access and not scraping like SearXNG, you may not even be able to set up a paid API account on many search engines, so your instance may be heavily limited.

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pantherina 0 points a month ago

That is not open source at all though lol wtf

12 months trust me bro

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chmod755 2 points a month ago

I am using it. It's good. No AI bullshit.

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victorz 3 points a month ago

Image search also good?

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pantherina 1 point a month ago

You pay for it, how? Is the payment decoupled from searches? With metager it is

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Ludicrous0251 2 points a month ago

I couldn't tell you because, again, I haven't used them, but I can tell you they have a very lengthy FAQ page for questions just like yours.

https://uruky.com/faq#o=3

Go nuts.

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pantherina 1 point a month ago

Thanks

They are sooo weird

Source code will be made available to customers who have been paying for at least 12 months.

This is not open source and not even source available lol

Once your account has been active for at least 12 months, a Source Code link appears in the footer. You can download a ZIP of the current web app under the Business Source License 1.1, which converts to AGPL-3.0 two years after each bundle is built.

That is source available to open source but not actually because it is not yet available. So do they give everyone access to those archives? In theory only customers need access so this could be legal, IF every customer immediately gets access to that old A-GPL code.

You may self-host for personal, non-commercial use. Commercial use and competing products or services are not permitted.

This is not AGPL then lol, you can do what you want but you must publish source code

Please do not publish the archive publicly; this is for transparency, not a community open-source project, and we generally do not accept contributions.

Yeah no, if it was for transparency they would publish it at least to every customer.

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oce 13 points a month ago

Not paid, but Ecosia based in Germany and Qwant based in France. Plus they are working together on an EU based index. For now they rely on Americans in majority like Kagi and DuckDuckGo do afaik.

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PlaneMaker 3 points a month ago

Not EU, but swisscows.com is the closest I can think of

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erebion 2 points a month ago

They advertise the snakeoil messenger TeleGuard. Apparently it is proprietary, which does not really create trust. They claim they don't store anything, but without trust... idk

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jlow 2 points a month ago

I've been using https://metager.org/ for a years and have no complaints (ecxept for image search being complete trash).

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pantherina 3 points a month ago

Easily this

Install their browser extension for blind tokens and anonymous payments

Also works on ironfox (firefox android)

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Ooops 2 points a month ago

Isn't Kagi mostly just a meta search engine aggregating results from the usual suspects with some added independent index building?

That's not exactly a rare feature, in fact most independent search engines do exactly that (querying the big searches while building their own index on top), and for free.

Also you can self-host a metasearch engine (for example: see here) or use one of the several dozen ones other people self-host and make available to the public.

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waldfee 1 point a month ago

Indeed, they do have their own index though their search results also include results from various other APIs ^[1]^

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