Biden to Target Industrial Pollution in a 2nd Term, if He Gets One

3 years ago by silence7 to c/climate

If the president wins re-election, his climate team is likely to try to cut greenhouse gases from steel, cement and other hard-to-clean-up manufacturing.
kriz 46 points 3 years ago

i always hate this because its like...ok...but you are president now so just target it now.

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silence7 30 points 3 years ago

A few reasons:

  • Spending significant amounts of money needs congressional support and the Republicans control one house of Congress
  • Changing laws requires not just a majority, but a 60% supermajority in the Senate
  • The US regulatory process is designed to be slow, and the EPA lost most of its staff under Trump, so they prioritized the low-hanging fruit
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echutaa 14 points 3 years ago

Sounds like it’s probably not going to happen then if all the stars have to alight to get it.

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DrugsMcChrist 13 points 3 years ago

funny how real change is just on the horizon but always out of reach. almost as if it were by design

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silence7 12 points 3 years ago

The US political system is designed to protect the prerogatives of the wealthy. It takes a sustained majority over time to overcome that. We've gotten to the point where there has been significant but not yet sufficient action:

The Washington Post has a much more complete list

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silence7 5 points 3 years ago

It's not so much about the stars all aligning, but needing to hold a majority of the centers of power for long enough. We've gone from being blown off to not having the votes to do anything at all to getting significant but not yet sufficient action. Getting to where we need to be is going to happen at some point, and it's on us to make it happen sooner rather than later.

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echutaa 2 points 3 years ago

I envy your optimism, but this just sounds like an empty promise with a built in scapegoat. What makes you so sure this will happen?

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PeepinGoodArgs 0 points 3 years ago
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silence7 0 points 3 years ago

We got a lot of that:

The Washington Post has a much more complete list

Some things got overturned in court, like the drilling permit moratorium.

Also, the mid-terms were in 2022. Getting more and better Democrats in congress plus reelecting Biden would make it possible to do a lot more.

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blazera 10 points 3 years ago

He accelerated it in his first term, so fuck em.

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philm 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, but what's the alternative?

It's a fucked up system we (in the industrial society) have. I would obviously want to have a different candidate that's less influenced by lobby and rich people. But it's not what the "system wants to have"...

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blazera 5 points 3 years ago

Younger, progressive candidates.

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andrewrgross 4 points 3 years ago

“If you are seen as imposing debilitating regulations on heavy industry that employs large numbers of people, you’re not only going to get a backlash from manufacturing, but labor as well,” said David Axelrod, the Democratic strategist who ran former President Barack Obama’s campaigns. “How to do that without looking like you are stabbing these industries in the back, or in the front for that matter, is a real political challenge.”

Godbless him he's trying, but no... it's not actually hard to get labor on board with this.

Step 1: Consult labor leaders and make labor standards and union requirements for government contracts a part of the regulatory requirements.

Step 2: Place barriers on outsourcing.

That's kind of it. You say, "We're going to place new burdens on this industry!" and the executives say, "We'll hold jobs hostage!" and you say "No... if you want to deal in US dollars, you'll make it here, you'll employ unionized workers, and you'll smile and thank us for all the fucking money you're making."

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Pika 1 point 3 years ago
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Metal_Zealot 0 points 3 years ago
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