TIL about the new word "zuzai", meaning "uses zero artificial intelligence"

19 days ago by artifex to c/til

About the word zuzai, coined to denote things made or done without artificial intelligence.

I had seen the #zuzai tag on mastodon a few times and had no idea what it was, but discovered a whole site dedicated to the new word. It's pronounced like "zoo's eye." You might say an author uses a zuzai writing process, or a teacher requires a zuzai testing environment. Is it a little pretentious to set up a whole website to justify the weird, new retronym you just came up with in a fit of ennui? Maybe. But I like zuzai, it encapsulates something that currently takes a lot of words to otherwise explain, and I hope it worms its way into the public zeitgeist.

Nutteman 126 points 19 days ago

Having to make a whole website to make a cringe-ass word happen is so fetch

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artifex 24 points 19 days ago

Urban Dictionary says: Fetch Stop trying to make it happen. It's not going to happen. "That's so fetch!" "Shut up, Gretchen. Stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen." Fetch by KamIsTotallyFuckingAwesome May 17, 2011 Word of the Day on March 30, 2019

and also

fetch slang for cool or awsome. Used in mean girls by Grechen Weener. Omg Kadi you love him. That is so fetch. Grechen stop trying to make "fetch" happen! It's not going to happen! fetch by Kayla February 8, 2005

But from context I can tell you mean the first one :)

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Codpiece 13 points 19 days ago

Us older generation thank you.

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bugbear 11 points 19 days ago

I understand not everyone has seen Mean Girls, but it's kind of funny that the film itself is ancient (22 years old I believe without looking it up)

Edit: Just checked. Yep, it came out in 2004.

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jaygray91 3 points 18 days ago

Haven't seen Mean Girls but know the meme. When it came out, I was a teenager and in the target audience.

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corsicanguppy 1 point 19 days ago

22 years = ancient?

Enlightenment is gonna hurt.

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Codpiece -3 points 19 days ago

Yeah that’s like so old like cringe.

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01189998819991197253 1 point 19 days ago

This is the scene. It's actually funny.

GIF:

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dontbelievethis 10 points 19 days ago path: 0 25975646 25977608, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 0
Feidry 51 points 19 days ago

What's wrong with "no AI"?

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Broadfern 35 points 19 days ago

“AI-free” is also apparently too many words

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Zoomboingding 18 points 19 days ago

Noai. This program/poster/image is noai. Easy.

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bugbear 10 points 19 days ago

It takes too many words to say that. /sarcasm

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Chozo 8 points 19 days ago

That won't get you a book deal like a "new word" will. The author thinks this will make him the next Cory Doctorow.

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bugbear 2 points 19 days ago

We have too many of those already...

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portnull 5 points 19 days ago

And most of the internet seems to be UZI

Using Zero Intelligence

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pheelicks 4 points 19 days ago

Or other alternatives like "organic".

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bugbear 2 points 19 days ago

Artisinal /joking

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Lumidaub 2 points 19 days ago

Would the market for organic food be the behemoth that it is if the choice of label had been something like "synthetic pesticide-free"?⁷

Edit: direct quote from article

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artifex 5 points 19 days ago

not sure why this is getting downvoted, it's an actual quote from the site.

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Chozo 9 points 19 days ago

It's getting downvoted because it's answering the question with another question. They might as well have just replied with the 🤷 emoji, for how useful of an answer it is.

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Lumidaub 1 point 19 days ago

Since we've obviously all read the article before commenting, I thought I'd post a short snippet as a reminder that the author has considered the question.

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bugbear 4 points 19 days ago

I don't know and we will never know. But the word is just appropriated. They didn't invent a new word. They could have just as well used the word natural for the marketing. Both words are similarly meaningless.

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artifex -7 points 19 days ago

It's about framing. By saying "no AI" you're acknowledging that the default selection is "AI". By making a word for it you're putting both concepts back on equal footing. That's how I think about it at least.

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snooggums 15 points 19 days ago

Making a word for it is stronger reinforcement that everyone is treating ai as the default.

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nylo 1 point 19 days ago

unfortunately this is true of <20s from what I've heard

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Chozo 3 points 19 days ago

By making a word for it you're putting both concepts back on equal footing.

But they're inherently not equal concepts.

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soyslurper2 47 points 19 days ago

Yeah, I'm not using this.

So hard to just say "no AI"

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corsicanguppy 7 points 19 days ago

C'mon man. The cool kids haven't made a new word in like 2 weeks now, and they're itching to manufacture more distinguishing mannerisms and prove their edginess. So fetch; cro nap, slipwoosh.

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01189998819991197253 5 points 19 days ago

So fetch

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BoosBeau 1 point 18 days ago

Plywood!

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Zier 1 point 19 days ago

6-7

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currycourier 5 points 19 days ago

Same amount of characters too

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Texas_Hangover 22 points 19 days ago

That's so stupid sounding. I'm not sure AI didn't write it.

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lightnsfw 16 points 19 days ago

Cringe

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moldy_rice 14 points 18 days ago

I prefer "slop free"

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naticus 10 points 18 days ago

Slopn't

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bugbear 13 points 19 days ago

"An author doesn't use LLM" does take too many words. It's much faster to tell someone they use a "zuzai writing process" and then proceed to explain to them what that word means in the first place.

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bugbear 8 points 19 days ago

But to be real for a moment, I think a neologism that just means "no AI" is giving more power to the "AI industry".

The website gives an example, the word vegan. It's as if someone who eats meat felt like it takes too many words to say "meat eaters" and made up a new word for it in opposition to veganism. If anything, they would be solidifying veganism.

Note: yes, people say carnivore when talking about meat eaters. But that wasn't invented solely for this use and also it's not precise.

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Broadfern 4 points 19 days ago

“Carnist” is popular in online vegan spaces, though fortunately I’ve never heard an irl vegan use the term because to be honest it sounds silly and/or dirty when said aloud

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bugbear 2 points 19 days ago

Huh, I haven't encountered it yet. The word makes me think of carnality, so yeah... I'm not gonna use it any time soon. Thanks, I'll know what people are talking about in the future. 🙂

I think that's a little bit different though, that's vegans having a name for another group they're opposing. I find it similarly silly as zuzai though 😃

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Holytimes 1 point 17 days ago

This comment here made me read zuzai as a shortened paizuri and now i cant un see it.

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pulsejet 1 point 18 days ago
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artifex 1 point 19 days ago

spam. slop. enshittification. we've had plenty of words enter everyday vocabulary. they all had to start somewhere (granted enshittification in particular is pretty easy to grasp without ever having seen it before).

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bugbear 10 points 19 days ago

Slop is not a new word at all. Spam is a name for then new concept. Also both happened much more naturally (hey, or organically) Enshittification is one word that was pushed by one person and people fell in love with it for some reason.

Look, invent new words. That's how languages work. Especially languages like English. But then don't complain that it's too many words or there are no words to say "AI free", because newly invented neologisms will always require more words in real conversations.

I mentioned the real problem (as perceived by me) below. I didn't say we shouldn't add new words to our languages at all. Admittedly, zuzai specifically also just happens to sound terrible and silly.

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tanisnikana 4 points 19 days ago

Enshittification isn’t a new word, it was just found. We’ve had “shit” for a long time, then Cory added “en-“ to become, “-ify” to direct an agent of change, and “-tion” to nominalize. It’s understandable and works within the context of the language, by people who hear it even once. It’s conjugatable, “enshittified,” “disenshittify,” and everyone knows what this means by familiarity of the language.

When I see “zuzai,” I see a Japanese i-adjective that I can’t get a meaning for. It’s just hanging out there and it makes me want to reach for a dictionary, but I’ll never find it, cause I don’t even have the right language to begin with.

EDIT:

Turns out it’s a noun, not even an i-adjective. Jail for slop peddlers though?

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Proprietary_Blend 13 points 19 days ago

Please stop

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rants_unnecessarily 11 points 18 days ago

What's with the first z?

Without it it sounds like "use AI"...

Quite a dumb word.

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idiomaddict 2 points 17 days ago

It’s how you describe the horrifying new generation of Chuck E. Cheese establishments: zoo’s ai

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andicraft 11 points 19 days ago

forced meme

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PhatalFlaw 9 points 19 days ago

It's quite annoying that it's a recursive acronym, and I would imagine will add confusion and hinder any wider spread adoption, or at the very least understanding of it

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artifex 4 points 19 days ago

We use lots of acronyms like regular words, it just takes a little time for them to become embedded in the language. Everyone knows what a LASER is, if not how it works or what the letters stand for. We check the weather RADAR, put in our PIN codes when checking out at the supermarket, and write out our addresses with ZIP codes. Eventually the acronyms just turn into regular words for most people.

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mazzilius_marsti 7 points 18 days ago

we have fuck tons of acronym and new words already

plz stahp

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Codpiece 2 points 19 days ago

I think in line with Trump trying to rename things, artificial intelligence should be renamed by the rest of the world to “American intelligence”.

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lIlIlIlIlIlIl 1 point 19 days ago

Yeesh

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