Florida weighs ditching property taxes and sticking Canadians with the bill

9 days ago by UnderpantsWeevil to c/canada

Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis has railed against property taxes, which fund local governments and the services they provide — law enforcement, fire, EMS, disaster preparation and mosquito control, among many others — equating them to a form of modern-day feudalism where homeowners must "pony up money to the government just for the courtesy of using your own property."

To end this, DeSantis is pushing Amendment 3, a ballot measure crafted by his Republican statehouse allies that will be put to voters in the midterm election next month.

If passed, Florida "homesteaders," as permanent residents are called, will see a dramatic increase in an existing property tax exemption.

Any Floridian with a primary residence valued at $250,000 US or less — about 60 per cent of all homesteaders, according to the governor's office, although that figure has been questioned — would pay nothing and those with a home worth more than that would pay much less than they do now. The measure also calls on the state to eliminate homesteader property taxes entirely over time.

This constitutional amendment requires a 60 per cent supermajority, and at least one recent poll suggests it will easily clear that hurdle.

State economists project such a move will cost about $12 billion US annually, forcing local and county governments that depend on these taxes to make deep cuts, find new revenue elsewhere or both.

That's where things could get more expensive for the Canadians who own an estimated $60 billion US worth of property in the Sunshine State. DeSantis has explicitly described them as a resource to tap to close expected budget gaps.

MajorMajormajormajor 40 points 9 days ago

Listen, nobody loves paying property taxes, but you know what's worse? Your house burning down and nobody is there to put it out. There's a reason everyone pays taxes.

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Beersux1516 26 points 9 days ago

No you don't get it. If you don't pay taxes you can pay twice as much when you need emergency services. That way you'll be super free.

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MajorMajormajormajor 6 points 9 days ago

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SaveTheTuaHawk 14 points 9 days ago

Boomers want everything on a coin op model.

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CompactFlax 10 points 9 days ago

Private sector fire departments.

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NarrativeBear 14 points 9 days ago

Would this be a subscription model? Something similar to property taxes?

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Witchfire 11 points 9 days ago

It's happened in the past. If you don't pay their exorbitant fees they let your house burn down.

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Reannlegge 3 points 8 days ago

Basic - $9.99 a month, if your house is on fire they bring a garden hose and use your water well.

Medium - $19.99 a month, they bring a garden hose and a tank of water.

High - $29.99 a month, they bring more than one hose and person.

Extreme - $99.99 a month, they bring a truck.

If you miss a payment you need to resubscribe with a $1000 basic beginner fee.

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SaveTheTuaHawk 3 points 8 days ago

"Fire has spread to the third floor, would you like to upgrade for $2,299 a month?"

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BradleyUffner 3 points 8 days ago

The ad-free version is an extra $15.99 add on. Otherwise they stop every few minutes to tell you about Nord VPN.

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SaveTheTuaHawk 3 points 8 days ago

This is the history of fire departments in the US.

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Reannlegge 4 points 9 days ago

But but but, you got to think of the insurance companies. If a house burns down how are the insurance companies to bend the home owner further over the barrel?

Capitalism you have to keep that in mind!

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Jiggle_Physics 2 points 9 days ago

It will just be required to hold and when it burns all the way down they will write it off as a total loss, and you will be forced to continue paying

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Reannlegge 3 points 9 days ago

So the insursance companies will still be charging the displaced people who need to break into other places to feed themselves and/or children, they will then take things to sell so that they can pay for that insurance because employement will be hard to keep or get without a perminate address. Than those people will need to pay for the replacements of stolen items, insurance does not cover 100% of stuff and their insurance raits will go up!

Capitalism, you got to remember them rich people need to get richer!

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Jiggle_Physics 3 points 9 days ago

Isn't it wonderful?

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Markham_Marxist 22 points 8 days ago

What the fuck are Canadians doing still going to Floridia?

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NestOfSalt 18 points 9 days ago

Get out of Florida, they hate Canadians there.

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SaveTheTuaHawk 3 points 8 days ago

Canada hates the Canadians who go to Florida. They only live there long enough to not lose healthcare but they feed the Florida economy. Assholes.

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RedSnt 16 points 9 days ago

"We're gonna fill the potholes and make Canada pay for it!" - hmm, sounds familiar..

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BarneyPiccolo 13 points 9 days ago

The problem for Floridian homeowners isn't the property taxes, it's the insurance. The property taxes are there for a reason - to fund schools, fire, police, etc, and everybody is cool with that, although some are so greedy, they'll STILL vote to abolish property taxes, even if it means there's nobody to vacuum up the tweakers and crackheads breaking into your taxless home.

The homeowners insurance problem is keeping people from buying houses, even if they could afford it. There is already a lot of excess inventory on the market in Florida, and there's expected to be a LOT more over the next year, so prices aren't going to be the problem, the thing that going to keep people from buying is the inability to find reasonably priced insurance.

David Jolly, Democratic candidate for governor has a plan, but the MAGA did their own study, in which they characterize his plan as a tax, and now they're running ads, claiming that a "recent study' (without calling their own) called it a tax, and so now they have the rationalization to claim that Jolly wants to raise your taxes. No he doesn't, he wants to figure out a solution to the serious homeowners insurance problem in Florida, something the MAGAs stubbornly refuse to even acknowledge, no less try to fix it. They just want to shit on the only plan that anyone is proposing.

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zod000 3 points 8 days ago

This is the truth. When I moved out of FL a few years ago my home owners insurance had gone up over 900% in the thirteen years I had owned that home. It was ludicrous. I know many retired people that just don't have home owners insurance anymore as they could no longer afford it on a fixed income. Their homes are paid off so they aren't legally required to have it, so they are just YOLOing it. It seems insane to me considering all the flooding and hurricanes, but it's no longer my circus.

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