PIxelSerg404 107 points 5 days ago

had a car brain joke about watching bicycle accident videos and i said i watch videos of cars getting obliterated by trains, guy was super pissed at me lmao

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nightofmichelinstars 47 points 5 days ago

What about all those billions we spent on car infrastructure they could have used? All that and they have to slow down the trains?

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PIxelSerg404 26 points 5 days ago

trying to convice car drivers that highways and one more lane are a black hole for money is often a waste of time sadly

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SwingingTheLamp 18 points 5 days ago

The way that many carbrains speak, it seems that they regard roads as naturally-occurring, geological features. (E.g. the Lemming who argued that pushing for cycling was harmful to people in undeveloped nations, who will have to drive in coming years, because bike lanes are too expensive for their governments to construct.)

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jumping_redditor -6 points 4 days ago

cars can drive on dirt and gravel roads just fine, bikes tend to not get enough traction to leave the potholes.

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TheTechnician27 -15 points 5 days ago

and then everyone clapped, and Albert Einstein gave you a roll of condoms

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PIxelSerg404 14 points 5 days ago

would be funny but no. no one clapped or aything lel

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sickday 62 points 5 days ago

my brain read Carbarians and I think that's going to stick for me

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Subscript5676 15 points 5 days ago

Welp

You have now unlocked a new word!

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BillyClark 14 points 5 days ago

And I misread your word as Carbonarians, which I guess would be an offshoot of Pastafarians.

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harmbugler 6 points 5 days ago

Nice

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Resonosity 4 points 5 days ago

Take an upvote chatter

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PIxelSerg404 3 points 5 days ago

i drive a prius im a hero -brian

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PIxelSerg404 2 points 5 days ago

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Zagorath 53 points 5 days ago

Facebook doesn't give a shit either, and honestly they should be held liable if a cyclist is ever killed by someone who has ever left or read a comment like this one that Facebook chose not to take down. For the last couple of years, I've started keeping a log of all the comments I've reported on Facebook, and then updating that log if I get a notification that they took action. Very, very few have needed updating. Here's my log of not removed comments:

And here are the ones they did remove:

Facebook actively encourages extreme violence.

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Alfredolin 15 points 5 days ago

Actually impressive. Including open death threats. Wow.

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nforminvasion 6 points 5 days ago

Give most humans the tiniest bit of power or comfort, and ANYTHING that questions or "threatens" that is immediately treated with hostility.

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Avicenna 12 points 5 days ago

wow the rage people feel at being physically incompetent...

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mrgoosmoos 10 points 5 days ago

I report comments like "just run them over" all the time, I've never seen one taken down

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TrickDacy 8 points 5 days ago

I cannot say I'm surprised. They moderate only under very narrowly defined circumstances. Thank you for keeping track of it.

I remember they would always remove and punish me for just language. Let's say some guy says something like "Fuck fa***ts". I report it, nothing happens. I tell the guy he's a homophobic piece of shit, removed and temp ban for 3 days.

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lechekaflan 3 points 4 days ago

There, it's so horribly easy to create destructive, violent, sexually-offensive content than to remove them. So much that some if not all human content moderators end up having godawful PTSD.

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infinitesunrise 32 points 5 days ago

If you were joking about murdering minorities with your AR to remind them that they have their own neighborhood to go back to, you'd at least be investigated by th- Oh wait, Arkansas? Nevermind.

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CompactFlax 30 points 5 days ago

Vehicular cycling advocates have set cycling back decades in USA, with the result being this thought.

A car or a bicycle travelling at 30% of the speed of traffic introduces a considerable risk. It’s why bike lanes aren’t also sidewalks. But it’s not a reason for vehicular homicide!

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hemko 24 points 5 days ago

I get your point, but more often than not, the car lanes are the only option for cyclists

If you're driving your 2 ton shitbox in public, then you have to drive knowing that one mistake of yours or someone else's can and will cost lives

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Saapas -2 points 5 days ago

I mean if everyone involved has concented to forfeiting someone's life, then I guess there's no issue. Though I'd prefer to be the shitbox driver in this case

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blitzen 21 points 5 days ago

I get why getting behind any vehicle moving at 30% of the expected rate of speed is an annoyance, and that annoyance is doubly so when it’s a person just doing recreation.

But what I come back to is that cycling isn’t just recreation. It’s also a legitimate form of transportation for some people who cannot drive (for various reasons) or for those who cannot afford it. It’s also one of the last remaining forms that isn’t privacy-invasive (either by the state or corporations).

People on two wheels should be conscious of holding up traffic, but those on four don’t own the roads. We’re all in this together.

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mrgoosmoos 11 points 5 days ago

I wonder how many people I get stuck behind on the road that are just driving to the gym, when they could run out their front door instead of on a treadmill

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cantstopthesignal 7 points 5 days ago

One thing people don't get is that car people think that the cyclist took his car to ride his bike as a fun activity. Nobody could be doing anything "legitimate" like going to work on a bicycle.

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CompactFlax 10 points 5 days ago

That’s also part of the Vehicular Cycling/Forester problem. Forester, distilled and paraphrased, was a proponent of “serious” cyclists, which included the MAML (Middle-Aged Man in Lycra) on racing bikes and excluded the person picking up groceries on a bike with baskets. Which summs up to “cycling is for recreation”. And visibly, the aggressive cyclists tend towards that MAML image, rather than dad picking up groceries or mom cycling to work.

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schipelblorp 10 points 5 days ago

What is a vehicular cycle and why would one advocate for it?

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CompactFlax 24 points 5 days ago

Video Essay or Wikipedia

Tl;DW/R: pretending bikes are cars and claiming bike lanes are dangerous.

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schipelblorp 1 point 5 days ago

This is like if women's MMA didn't exist so they had to come up with a lot of copium to justify women competing against men.

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LuceVendemiaire 2 points 5 days ago

No? The difference between women and men is nowhere close to the disparity between a car and a bike. What is this comparison?

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alcoholicorn 1 point 5 days ago

The guy who came up with it was a lycra guy.

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alcoholicorn 1 point 5 days ago

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CombatWombat -3 points 5 days ago

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CompactFlax 6 points 5 days ago

It is important to understand what Vehicular Cycling is and how it has entrenched carbrained infrastructure. https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/28614295

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CombatWombat -1 points 5 days ago

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TrickDacy 29 points 5 days ago

But what if I'm inconvenienced for minutes per year due to cyclists??? I should be able to kill them!!! /s

Sidenote, in 3 years of using Boost for Lemmy, this is the first post that crashes it consistently when I tried to load the comment view. I wonder what could possibly be going on with it. Had to use the web UI to make this comment.

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Mpatch 2 points 4 days ago

Same, I took a few seconds scrolled just past this comment. And crashed.

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destructdisc 1 point 5 days ago

Weird. I'm on Boost right now and it loads perfectly for me

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QueenHawlSera 25 points 4 days ago

Right Wingers and their bloodlust disgusts me

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chunkystyles 19 points 5 days ago

That's in northwest Arkansas. Bella Vista is like 45 minutes north of Fayetteville and full of retirees. Those facebook groups are disgusting hard right nutjobs.

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kerryh8er04 1 point 5 days ago

Hello fellow NWA person

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chunkystyles 1 point 5 days ago

Arkansas is a beautiful state. But NWA is the only part of it I'd willingly live in.

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schipelblorp 18 points 5 days ago

If it's Fayetville, Arkansas, it looks like it has some gravel and mountain bike paths, but also low-traffic mountain roads that probably have poor passing opportunities. And it also looks like people might come to cycle there.

From Fayetteville, road cyclists will discover one of the largest road networks in Arkansas – with over 400 miles of scenic paved roads accessible from town. Low traffic density, high road quality, and diverse mountain topography make Fayetteville the ideal destination for your next road cycling vacation.

https://www.experiencefayetteville.com/...

So there's a possibility local traffic is being held up by tourists cycling nowhere in particular on roads where you might have to wait a while for a safe passing opportunity, made even longer by people struggling with an incline.

What would be a good infrastructure solution to this problem?

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SchmidtGenetics 14 points 5 days ago

What would be a good infrastructure solution to this problem?

Is this a serious question? You have a separate bike pathway/trail that twins the road.

Like in Banff National Park

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schipelblorp 4 points 5 days ago

Yes, I guess that's really the only good answer. Just on mountain roads, space might be at a premium, but there are probably alternate routes a bike path could take.

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SchmidtGenetics 7 points 5 days ago

Yes, but with all the construction equipment already there, it’s a fraction of the cost to build it alongside. Also that way you can wildlife protect it along with the highway. A seperate route would be at risk of animals (and need to be wary of migration paths) or need its own protection and animal crossovers.

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Zagorath -8 points 5 days ago

You have a separate bike pathway/trail that twins the road

For this specific use case, that's only a viable alternative if the separated bike path is just as wide as the road itself. Normal bike paths designed for cyclists commuting or otherwise transporting themselves can be half the width for a bi-directional cycleway as a single car lane, but for cyclists training in the hills, they need the road width to be able to take corners at speed safely.

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SchmidtGenetics 8 points 5 days ago

Uhh… the pathways have 20/km limit, it’s also for pedestrians, roller bladders, skateboarders etc. and your risking your life going fast in the mountains wildlife can be around any corner. If you’re treating a pathway or trail like a road, you’re an ass.

If you’re road training, than you do it on roads… they don’t need to make a specific trail just for that. Don’t go on a busy road, there’s plenty of less used roads that you can do that on.

And how would you be going fast UPHILL, this is mountainous territory that’s being talked about.

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Zagorath -5 points 5 days ago

Road training is literally what we're talking about here?

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Zagorath 5 points 5 days ago

A simple solution is to have extra wide bits where the topology allows it, with the width added to the uphill side of the road. Adding an unseparated bike lane on long straighter sections or round the bend is usually going to be sufficient for relatively low-speed mountain overtakes. What you should never do is encourage anyone to overtake a cyclist going downhill.

Here's some examples from Australia:

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kahjtheundedicated 6 points 5 days ago

I’ll add that even in the US, it’s somewhat common for mountain roads to periodically have an extra passing lane, pull-off points, or an extra wide shoulder so motorists can get around slower traffic.

So there’s really no excuse for not adding a bike lane on uphill portions in cycling heavy areas whenever those roads need to be repaved.
…so maybe we’ll see some of that in the next 50 years…

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FlashMobOfOne 18 points 5 days ago

Yup. I've been on two wheels since June, and thankfully, I've only run into a handful of crazy drivers who make it a point to let met know how much they hate me being on the road.

But even that handful is fucking scary.

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alcoholicorn 10 points 4 days ago

America uniquely hostile to non-car transport. I feel safer riding a motorbike through the densest traffic Vietnam has to offer, in the middle of a monsoon than an American stroad.

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FlashMobOfOne 3 points 4 days ago

Yup, and you can be obeying traffic laws and operating perfectly safely and at least one asshole will still act inappropriately toward you just for using the road.

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alcoholicorn -6 points 4 days ago

Traffic laws in America are dumb as shit, especially those designed around 2-wheelers. You can be perfectly legally blocking traffic and creating an unsafe situation for everyone behind you by being or pretending to be a car doing 10 mph.

We must all share the road, the bicyclists who take up a lane when the shoulder is clear and they aren't turning left or something are nearly as big assholes as the drivers who see a bike filtering at a light or stopped traffic and move to block them.

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FlashMobOfOne 8 points 4 days ago

The cyclists have every right to use the road as you do, and whether you like it or not is immaterial. The only exception is a freeway.

The assholes are the people in the two-ton death machines who think it's their prerogative to endanger someone's life because they want to get to that red light ahead two seconds faster.

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PenguinMage 7 points 4 days ago

Used to bike and walk in that area actually... I've been hit by 11 cars. Nowhere else have I had that issue and I live in what is considered a "less bike friendly" place now. Those folk up there are aggressively hateful towards pedestrians and cyclists.

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Jhex 3 points 5 days ago

time for cyclist to start dropping nails in the middle of the road...

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thesohoriots 7 points 5 days ago

Nails can miss, caltrops usually don’t.

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crunchy 5 points 5 days ago

Too subtle. Gotta speak their language: