The 87-year-old whose eviction sparked a domestic crisis and triggered nationwide anti-government protests has died in hospital late on Wednesday. Protesters say they will continue to demonstrate to uphold her legacy.
Now she's an unwilling martyr to boot. Not a good sign for the parties that denied cooperation in enacting protective legislation, good for society at large because the blame goes to the far right and the conservatives.
Yep lets make statutes of this lady when this is done. They should burn down the leaders houses and cause them as much stress as humanity possible. Because they murder that poor woman. What about the landlord who just wanted to push her out so he can charge more rent? He should be dragged into the street over this.
Ok, i would rather prefer some swift legislation to prevent this from ever happening again and legal proceedings against those responsible (which would be hard to get a sentence for - i don't think they actually broke any laws, and making new laws and sentencing people after the fact is something we all don't want, i assure you of that).
But if that doesn't happen, i'm down with your solution too.
Every successful movement has had two wings. A reasonable, non-violent, and thoughtful wing that offers peaceful solutions, and a militant wing that's prepared to use less gentle means to demand change. Sin Fein would not have accomplished much without the IRA. Martin Luther King Jr. would have struggled to get concessions if Malcolm X and the Black Panthers didn't exist. Mandela, Gandhi, all of them exist in juxtaposition with a less restrained movement that we tend to minimize in the history books, because the powers that be don't approve of people knowing how the real sausage of political change works.
You want a peaceful resolution? Good! You are welcome and needed. But don't disparage the radical wing. Understand they too want justice. They are a necessary part of the movement as well. They are the implicit "Or Else" at the end of every call for justice.
This is why nonviolence is violence too. Nonviolent movements require their violent counterparts to put pressure on states.
And also, if a movement manages to get a reform passed, it is dependent on the state’s monopoly on violence to get it enforced. Don’t forget that the National Guard had to be deployed to actually desegregate schools in the South.
There is no such thing as a successful non-violent movement, and anyone who demands non-violence is carrying water for the oppressors.
As i said, i am down with @fredselfish@sh.itjust.works 's solution if a peaceful way is not found. Don't paint me as disparaging because i prefer talking before shooting. Any movement that prefers shooting over talking has to be shunned from the start, because it will only beget more violence even when the opposition might be ok with talks to come to a solution. All of your examples were on the side of "talking first".
Edit: Anyone downvoting this is advocating for hurting people before discussing things. I am astounded that we have people thinking like this here.
Legislation to prevent this was proposed but was shut down by right wing parties. Sanchez (Spain's PM) now has called for elections in november to try to increase his strength in parliament.
Died of homelessness
In Madrid btw.
I wonder how and if it will change votes. I am not from Spain, know only some basic Spanish. So if someone is from Spain and is more informed could you expand on the political climate? I understand that people are upset. Are they blaming prime minister's party PSOE or those right wing parties (PP and VOX) that are on top or on the rise?
I am not sure if I read it correctly and probably it is far too soon to judge, but polls do not look good, looks like VOX and PP is rising and PSOE is falling.
The newest poll is from 7-8 October and I think gives VOX the biggest rise:
Right now every party is trying to take advantage of this and claiming the other side is reponsible of her death.
PSOE is cooked and it is very difficult for them to stay in power, everyone assumes it will be overpassed by PP+VOX but rhey are trying to use this case and the current climate to overturn their chances, still difficult thoug.
Really? You couldn't fit the country into the post?
Lol? It's news, and someone misses the most important bit about the news (where) and puts in oddly specific info (name of a person), and you get offended on their behalf because I complain that vital information is missing from the post?
It’s not OP’s fault if you were living under a rock lately.
Wanting to understand where someone died is a bad take? Not the smartest answer...
Hard downvote, man.
It would be good to make an effort not to be a jerk. It's not what you said. It's how you communicate.
Lol you complain about my tone and call me a jerk. What a muppet.
Yes, I have limited time on my hands. Also don't feel like wasting it arguing with blockheads like you anymore...
Do you have any idea how large Spain is?*
You couldn't fit the names of the inhabitants of a moderately sized Spanish TOWN into the post, let alone the entire country.
*roughly 1.24 times larger than California
Yeah, all of Europe is about the size of the US or smaller afair 🤷🏻
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Should be considered murder, she died because of the stress caused by the eviction.
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