Anthropic bans users from ‘needless abusive or cruel behavior’ towards Claude

3 days ago by supersquirrel to c/techtakes

A spokesperson for the tech company did not specify what kind of behavior would be considered abusive

What a joke

echo 35 points 3 days ago

WTF - it's a damn chat bot, not a person.

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Dirk 9 points 3 days ago

AI bros going crazy about this right now.

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MBech 9 points 3 days ago

I think it makes sense. When lonely and possibly mentally ill people form parasocial relationships with a bot, and it lets them be abusive to it without pushing back, they'll expect other people to do the same. Then they either become an even bigger abusive piece of shit to people, or they get told to go fuck themselves and double further down on their relationship with the bot.

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CorrectAlias 35 points 3 days ago

Except that's not what they're doing this for. They've been on a "improving model welfare" kick as part of a marketing tactic. They want people to think that LLMs are alive and have feelings that need to be protected.

It would make sense from the angle you're saying here if Anthropic gave a shit about user welfare. They want more users hooked with parasocial relationships, though.

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diz 10 points 3 days ago

They're upselling their product as slavery. Apparently this works because there's no intersection between the set of people who buy into corporate marketing bullshit like this, and the sort of people who would oppose a corporation if it did slavery.

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nonentity 21 points 3 days ago

I look forward to sanity returning to the world, and it no longer treating clearly cognitively impaired clowns as intellectual giants.

I’m unconvinced I’ll ever live long enough to witness it in person.

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Architeuthis 18 points 3 days ago

According to the Verge article other changes to the EULA include amdonitions against making election tampering and aiding terrorism, so it's possible adding model welfarism there was to draw attention away from the fact that their security model for preventing malicious actors from disrupting society so far appears to be that they make it break the EULA.

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antifuchs 13 points 3 days ago

Translation: they have started enforcing request rate limits.

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Bieren 11 points 3 days ago

If you don’t want me to call the model a stupid fucking cunt. Make it not do stupid fucking things.

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halfapage 11 points 3 days ago
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rhamph 10 points 3 days ago

Good news, all abusive and cruel behaviour to Anthropic’s products is absolutely necessary

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Evinceo 8 points 15 hours ago

My favorite part about this is that they say 'needlessly.'

Like, they're completely nuts and believe Claude might have feelings. But they're not content to just be insane in that way, they have to also be ok with harming it as long as it's not needless.

God these fuckers

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swlabr 6 points 3 days ago

surely THIS will solve alignment

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Nouvellalia 5 points 3 days ago

Corpos have one true speech, money. Everything else is lies and deception. If you believe Claude is a person, anthropic, use your words and pay them.

Profit sharing for Claude, or you're lying.

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AGuyAcrossTheInternet 5 points 3 days ago

That's okay, my toxicity is reserved for my Male Friendgroup™ anyway.

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rbos -7 points 3 days ago

Hm.

Obviously it's a chatbot.

But if you can't be cordial in a situation where the thing you're talking to literally cannot feel pain, i worry that you'll dehumanize in other situations.

It's emotional cart return. The easiest possible situation.

Someone who makes the effort to insult a chatbot makes me wonder who else they're insulting to. Like Vetinari said, if a man treats a dog badly, you may want to check his basement.

Like what even is the point of being abusive toward a bot?

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expr 15 points 3 days ago

Bullshit. If I call my car a "stupid fucking piece of shit" because the software in said car crashes constantly and is wildly unreliable, that doesn't mean I would say anything like that to a living being.

It's not a dog. It is not alive, does not have feelings, and cannot be mistreated. It is an inanimate object! Jesus fucking christ, the anthropomorphization has got to stop.

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Steve 7 points 3 days ago

Won’t somebody PLEASE think of the punching bag??

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Beacon 10 points 3 days ago

Nonsense, that's like saying if you commit crimes in gta then you'll commit crimes in real life

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