How Your Parents Ruined Driving - Climate Town on the rise of the SUV
6 days ago by Almacca to c/fuckcars
This is a horror story.
I just discovered this channel and I like it. It's also on Nebula, so I'll be watching on there from now on.
I haaaaaate SUVs. I also hate crossovers . and giant pickups.
Give me fucking wagons and hatchbacks dammit!!! Americans are idiots.
SUVs are worse than regular cars in several ways, but it's important to remember that Rollie's focus is on climate and in terms of urbanism regular cars are just as bad because they take up the same amount of space. Emissions and safety for other road users are problems, of course, but fucking up the design of our cities to build huge amounts of extra road width and parking is the biggest problem of all. Not only does accommodating cars inflate our concrete usage (which takes a huge amount of carbon emissions to produce), but it also physically forces our destinations to be further apart, destroying the viability of other transportation modes.
Point is, we can make small improvements by swapping out the worst kinds of automobiles for better ones, but in order to make transformational improvements we have to have fewer of them in total and use them less. Merely switching back to wagons and hatchbacks will not absolve us.
- His name is Rollie
- While he's definitely on Team #FuckCars, he has on numerous occasions pointed out that larger vehicles are in fact worse than "normal" cars due to their fuel consumption, noise, and lethality to everyone outside the vehicle.
His name is Rollie
Whoops! Fixed.
he has on numerous occasions pointed out that larger vehicles are in fact worse than “normal” cars due to their fuel consumption, noise, and lethality to everyone outside the vehicle.
Yes, that's what I said: "SUVs are worse than regular cars in several ways." But the point is that the gains from switching from trucks back to cars are marginal compared to the gains from reducing the number of automobiles in general. So if you're an activist with limited political capital, it's way better to spend it on zoning reform or bike/ped/transit infrastructure than it is on stuff like CAFE standards or the chicken tax.
Totally agree.
Unfortunattely the cities have already been built, theyre all super spread out, and its not like theyre ever going to knock it down and start again. Can new cities start up? Ive never seen that happen
Unfortunattely the cities have already been built, theyre all super spread out, and its not like theyre ever going to knock it down and start again.
No, that's not true. Even in America, cities weren't built for cars. They were built for walking and streetcars and then bulldozed for them. We've done it once to fuck things up; we can do it again to fix them.
Very true. But thats because cars bring in money, walking and streetcars dont.
My city is "only" 100k people, its miles across, I could never see them redesigning it. They just built another 6 lane east to west highway cuz the town is expanding so far out now.
I love tiny capable hatchbacks! Especially if they're lifted dirt rally-style.
Me too
Niice
small fuel efficient suvs are not that bad but in most cases a minivan would do better.
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