'It Is Done. Hail Satan:' City Immediately Regrets New Religious Liberty Law That Allows Prayer at City Council Meeting

3 days ago by technocrit to c/atheism

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/52897112

Iowa city council debates proper time in meeting agenda to "undo the curse that was just put on our city."

An Iowa man has kicked off controversy over religious freedom in the small town of Ottumwa, Iowa by opening a city council meeting with a prayer to Satan, which then kicked off a debate about the proper time in the meeting agenda to undo the “curse.”

Gullible 35 points 3 days ago

They've lost nothing. They get to devote government time to religion. They've won so hard that I can't even begin to understand how to get society back on track without drastic measures

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Malica 7 points 3 days ago

Either we go drastic or we go down with them. It might not be easy, but it's simple.

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spacegoat 1 point 3 days ago
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Mulligrubs 30 points 3 days ago

When Abrahamic religion controls government, it's madness. And here we are.

As the 80s Satanic Panic showed us, we're not above losing our collective minds and putting people in prison... and if they ever control the USA again, they will kill you. They're instructed to by God. It would be wrong not to kill you.

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Valmond 4 points 3 days ago

"We're doing it to save you!!!"

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Zier 20 points 3 days ago

"Reverse the curse" LOL! LOL! LOL! What a frightened little snowflake.

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Pat_Riot 19 points 3 days ago

TST doing "the lord's" work again. Lol

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pdxfed 12 points 3 days ago

Doing God's work, well played

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nocturne 11 points 3 days ago

Well prayed...

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Bipauler 4 points 2 days ago

Wwjjd? Probably uppray the fuck outta this

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Objection 10 points 3 days ago

This bit never gets old.

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kboos1 -16 points 3 days ago

I can't approve of worshiping a devil/demon but I do approve of taking the opportunity to throw the hypocrisy back into their faces.

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thebardingreen 50 points 3 days ago

The Satanic Temple doesn't worship Satan either really. It's Pastafarianism, except more metal. It's a parody religion designed to push back on Christianity, going through the motions of worshiping Satan entirely to trigger Christians. You'll note in the invocation that she said to "Let us reason our solutions with agnosticism in all things, holding fast only to that which is demonstrably true." The existence of Satan is not demonstrably true and the Satanic Temple doesn't claim that it is. They're metalhead non-theists going through the motions of invoking Satan in order to get Christians to freak out so they can make their points and make the Christians look dumb. And when I say Christians, I mean these Christofascists / Christian Nationalists we're seeing trying to take over government, society and culture. They don't target peaceful Christians going about their own business. They target Christians in government (or other positions of authority) being authoritarian assholes.

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mynameisbob 7 points 3 days ago

yup

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StabbingSky 4 points 3 days ago

Actual Christians would probably be amused by it, but those are a rare breed.

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phar 20 points 3 days ago

There's no such thing as devil's and demons

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bajabound 2 points 3 days ago

Plenty of them walk among us. They're just shitty people, not supernatural beings.

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phoenixz 4 points 3 days ago

Those we can just call narcissistic assholes and cunts. No need yo call them something cool or imaginary supernatural

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phar 4 points 3 days ago

You are using the word metaphorically and that is not what the previous person was saying

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churrodestroyer 8 points 3 days ago

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friend_of_satan 4 points 3 days ago

Did you even read the prayer that is quoted in the article? It's pretty great, even from a secular standpoint.

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phoenixz 3 points 3 days ago

You dont approve of worshipping imaginary super evil beings?

Just put of curiosity; you do approve of worshipping imaginary less evil beings like that "god" that christians are so up about? Because that imaginary fucker is really just as evil. And alsoimaginary and made up, also an important point to make...

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